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Join Date: 2003-09-21
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To see Astral Plane clearly is hard?it?s full of our fantasy what we crate in our mind during daydreams. Whatever you see at your dreams, most of it is just your Fantasy and not the fantasy free Astral.
When you looked at window and you noticed that something is wrong with hills, it?s easy to think that your mind start to create something new, and here it is.
As Gnostic Masters said, we have only 3 % of free consciousness. So, 97 % of our actions are not free, it?s created by our different Egos, who fight to control your body. To make you anger, lustful, fearful, pride, etc..
As you free your consciousness from Egos ( with technique to Eliminate Egos ) and your free consciousness will grow, you will see Astral more clearly and to know what is real there and not.
At Astral, you can?t kill persons as I know, so those bus travelers will survive.
But yes, there exist rules too. You can?t progress Spiritually, if you act there bad. Even with your Egos. You need to control it best as possible.
Also, try to develop the Intuition, and that way you will have better Astral clarity.
P.s.
The two techniques, Eliminating Egos and Intuition, can be learned at Gnostic Courses.
Join Date: 2003-09-21
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You seem to have remembered your dream very clearly which is very impressive by itself. We don't always get clearer visions let alone memories of them.
Wether you projected or you were in a dream you were in the astral plane as the difference is the method of how you travelled there( of course you would be conscious if you projected). When you started realising something was not right that probably was your chance to wake up in your dream, by questioning where you were instead of asking your host. If you questioned you would have had a conscious astral experience.
When we astral travel, we travel with our astral body and things in the astral, although duplicates of what we have in the physical, are made of astral matter, which means we can not harm or be harmed in a physical sense. Besides, the moment we start feeling any egos, be it hate anger or fascination we lose focus and return back to our physical body. That means we can not cause harm to anybody out there as we are now. The astral plane has fewer laws governing it than the physical and that is why we can do things like flying there but not here. For example time and gravity are applicable only to the physical world. I believe that is what you were referring when you talked about the "bus full of people coming at you..".
Dream messages could be literal or symbolic and most of the time projections of our mind, either way they expose the state of our psyche. Whichever category your dream falls in to only you will know. One has to rely on ones intuition as to what each one of ones dreams mean and that can be developed through working with the 3 keys. As the consciousnes increases we can see clearer both in the physical and higher dimensions and can grasp the meanings of all phenomena that unfold infront of us.
I hope it helps.
Tsehay
Join Date: 2003-09-21
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The First step what you can do to fix this problem, is to ask you Divine Mother to explain you why this happening to You OR to invoke a V.M. Master and ask about it. This way you will know, what problem you need to work on.
Regarding necklace, don?t use it !
Things such as gems, precious stones and crystals do not help us in the Spiritual Work. Moreover, it could be harmful to have these sorts of objects depending on where they've been before. Some people do all sorts of works upon crystals and this could impact on you.
Join Date: 2003-09-21
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The pleasure is mine.
It is good that you appreciate the importance of perseverance and practice. It is also easier to get results by giving one system a chance instead of using diffferent systems at any given time.
As you have the astral book in your possession the teachings on weeks 4, 7 & 8 deal with the issues you raised in this forum. The excercises given in week 7 are helpful in dispeling unwanted entities.
Good luck.
Tsehay
Join Date: 2007-02-02
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Hello.
When my mother passed away I had a dream about one week later. At the time all my emotions were pouring out and as I lay in bed one night I was feeling very depressed and the reality of loosing my mother was really setting in. I lay there crying myself to sleep and praying for her to let me know she was alright now. I felt like I was in the stage of in between sleep and awareness. At that point I felt a touch of a kiss upon my cheek. I could feel the pressure of the kiss and a vibration of not just the feel of the kiss upon my cheek, but the sound of a kiss echoing and vibrating in my head. I immediately raised up for I was in total shock of this experience. I was now fully awake and in a sit up position leaned over to see my husband was lying on his side facing the opposite direction of me and fast asleep. Was this an out of body experience? Please help......Everything that night seemed to be very real......Sincerely Sandy
Join Date: 2003-09-21
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Well yes, probably it was.
It?s hard to say, because you were at high emotional mode.
Its could be just a hard imagination created by your Egos (your emotional statements), but also can be a OOBE (Out of Body Experience). Its very hard to say what it was, because you said you was at emotions.
I suggest, trying to investigate it, try to use this case as a inspiration to explore the Astral and find it out what happened there.
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Regards,
Stas