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	Mon, 04/16/2007 - 07:28
Mende Dimovski Join Date: 2007-04-15 Forum Posts: 15	Hi people....I need some help from you...When i first find out about AP i started with practicing and everything else...2 months has passed until now and still no results...So i think that my problem is the VIBRATIONS...I'm using many methods for AP,for example like Brainwave gen...I bought many cd's with practicing and something else...But the famous VIBRATIONS i felt them only the first and second time when i tried AP....From then until now...i don't know why but i can't,i just can't feel the Vibrations through my body....If you have any suggestion what should i do...or some proposals PLEASE help me...I'm getting desperate....P.S Once when i was using BWgen i was using some Trance preset...and i fall in trans condition...and there was a some kind of warm energy in my arms and my upper part of the body....the feeling was like i was floating...but my legs didn't feel anything of that energy...Maybe somebody can explain me that too....THANKS FOLKS !!
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#1	Mon, 04/16/2007 - 08:31
pavlin Join Date: 2004-09-08 Forum Posts: 712	Hello Mende, I personally haven't tried brainwave gen or anything like this. I personally doubt these methods because of what I understand they work with the subconsciousness, while true spiritual experiences, something that astral projection can be, come from the consciousness within. The consciousness itself can be fed by being aware throughout the day. Vibrations themselves are just a sensation that may or may not be experienced depending on our level of relaxation during the practice. Basically to project we need concentration and relaxation and as long as you have those two you shouldn't have problems. They are skills that are developed gradually, so don't worry it hasn't worked yet. This site offers a really good online course in Astral Projection, which you can take if you're interested. It is free. Starts April 23. Until then you can read about and try some of the techniques offered by reading some of the students' comments under "Out-of-body experiences" on the left-hand side bar. Welcome to the site. I hope you enjoy it! pavlin
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#2	Mon, 04/16/2007 - 08:56
Mende Dimovski Join Date: 2007-04-15 Forum Posts: 15	Thanks for the tips....Be sure i will enjoy here with people who understand me...Cause everyone around me doesn't understand what i'm trying to achieve and they laugh about it :)
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#3	Mon, 04/16/2007 - 12:39
gyorgi (not verified) Join Date: Forum Posts: 670	Hi Mende, It seems you are waiting for those vibrations to come so you can AP. Pavlin has very well expleined what they are. When I do AP, it is rare that I would feel them, and still am succeseful. Learn to concentrate on one thing only. Take the courses, they will help ALOT. Let them laugh, they do it because they want to achive stomic vibrations. You on the other hand, want to AP, and you will with practice, but not necessarily through vibrations. Don't expect the unexpected, stay attentive, concentrated and aware of your action. If one realy want - he can start to fly. the sky is open and wide, I wellcome you to try.
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#4	Tue, 04/17/2007 - 03:09
chip (not verified) Join Date: Forum Posts: 670	Forget the vibrations and go for the sleep paralysis instead. Just focus on staying conscious awake and trick the body to sleep. Take the rest from there. I don't see why chakra vibrations are so important in getting out, since Iv'e done it without the vibrations. Wish someone could answer if chakra is a must to project, or if this is individual?
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#5	Tue, 04/17/2007 - 09:24
Mende Dimovski Join Date: 2007-04-15 Forum Posts: 15	Thanks for the tips people....Btw i think chakra depends on individuals...what person you are....your feelings etc....I think it's smth like that...I have read that somewhere on net
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#6	Wed, 04/18/2007 - 07:52
chip (not verified) Join Date: Forum Posts: 670	Do you have a link to it? Just a personal opinion that chakra in reality has another purpose than triggering OBE, but can be used for it. Taken in consideration that people who experience sleep paralysis, Iv'e never come across descriptions of vibrations. Even interviewed friends, besides seeing people in the room they never mentioned vibrations. If astral is splitted into different levels, then maybe chakra is necessary to move further into these higher levels, than to the levels close to the physical. Like OBE. This would make more sense. Like the more active the chakras are, the further in you can project. The less, the closer to the physical you project. Can anyone verify this?
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#7	Thu, 05/24/2007 - 06:34
Sonny Zuvich Join Date: 2007-04-10 Forum Posts: 24	Hey guys...i finaly maneged to make it to my ferst O-B-E ..but then i realized ive had this befor but it was a very long time ago....this is how it happend as chip said the sub concios plays an importent roll in all of this..if the sub concios believes it things will happen..things will manifest...so what i did was for the past three days i said to myself my physical body is just a shell,i have the concios ability to leav my physical body and explore within and beyond the universe...and it worked in just three days time every half an hour i would say that and then today this after noon at 11:32 AM i did it but it was through a dream i was not lucid it all seemd so real in my dream i said to my mom ok im gonna go have an O-B-E so she said ok w/e you know in sarcasim anyway i sat down in my chair then all of a suden out of no where it seemd as if i was creating a lightning storm inside my mind which hade a tremendeous vibration rate in my body then i felt my body rise up and my feet and legs was floating way above my head but my head was still stuck so i focused on my head and then it was released ...andfor the ferst time whil concios and with intention i saw the astral plane it seemd like a ghostly world like a deep blue reality its hard to explain..but it looked so much like my room...i know like i know like i know this was so real that it scared the living daylights out of me...but the main thing is ..i did it.
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#8	Thu, 05/24/2007 - 14:53
Vadim Join Date: 2004-11-30 Forum Posts: 2898	Hi Sonny, That's really good that you did it! Usually our first experiences are not clear and messy, however with more experiences their quality improves. Strength with your practices!
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#9	Sat, 05/26/2007 - 11:12
Mende Dimovski Join Date: 2007-04-15 Forum Posts: 15	Nice job sonny....i wish you luck in the astral world and many many others experiences.... i hope you would share them with us.... And thanks for sharing this.I'll try that these days... Best wishes
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#10	Sun, 05/27/2007 - 12:27
Mende Dimovski Join Date: 2007-04-15 Forum Posts: 15	I have a question only for those people who are very good in AP.... I'm very curious about the Bermuda triangle.... Has anyone went there ??To see and explore what's going on in the astral world ? I'm very curious about that...i didn't wanna to make a new topic so i posted here... If anyone has been there and see and explore what's going on maybe you can post some informations here :D
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