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Tue, 06/06/2006 - 07:47
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Daniel MC
Join Date: 2006-03-03 Forum Posts: 120 |
I have read that it's harmful to your energies to masturbate when you try to astral project somewhere on these forums.But what about having sex with the opposite sex? Is that a waste too? |
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Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2748
Masturbation is extremely harmful for everything, not only for astral practices.
It has many similarities with drugs.
The faster we stop it -the better!
Tallking about sex, it depends how you have it.
Gnostic view on it is not to run away from sex, however sex must be done without lust in a very pure manner.
There is a sexual practice taught in the courses, called Alchemy and it is one of the very basic pillars of spiritual work, the 2 key.
It makes astral projection easier, dreams more vivid, increases level of energy, purifies it and transforms it to higher leveles, creates spiritual bodies, destroys stubborn egos...
Alchemy supports loving relationships, makes divine fire of love to grow!
However as sexual egos are the strongest this practice can be so easily abused -it is very sensitive and divine.
And it has some differences from sex the way we used to do it.
I can't explain how excactly it workes here and now because it is a lot of material to cover and small deviation can cross all the results. When you will learn it you will see what I mean.
If you are really interested to learn it I can suggest you to take Esoteric Wisdom course where it is explained in details.
All the best!
Vadim.
Join Date: 2006-03-03
Forum Posts: 120
I am working my way up to the esoteric wisdom course. I know about alchemy, but nothing that covers what it really is, but I will find out when I get to the course.
Meanwhile I'm interested in how sex can ruin my practises and what I can do to make up for it.
Join Date: 2004-05-01
Forum Posts: 129
It is great that you have these questions and want to avoid harmful practices. As Vadim mentioned, the practice of Alchemy will be explained in detail in the Esoteric Course. If you read Extracts of Teachings regarding Alchemy by the Masters, you will have concluded that for Alchemy, true love is needed. So, casual sex with multiple partners is not a good idea if you want to practice Alchemy.
However, to understand what it means not to allow the egos of lust to interfere, I would suggest to begin reading the free e-book on this site The Mystery of the Golden Blossom. You will read it as a part of the Course, and it is available from this link: http://www.gnosticweb.com/documents/EN_The_Golden_Blossom.pdf.
To get more familiar with topic, you can perhaps read the first ten chapters and that will answer many of the questions you may have at the moment.
Ragards,
Andrea
Join Date: 2006-03-03
Forum Posts: 120
Join Date: 2005-12-29
Forum Posts: 28
basically sex but not regular sex one reciever of pleasure is the best way i can describe it.....mouths are involved....?
I hope this was not too graphic but it is a question i do need answered
Join Date: 2004-09-08
Forum Posts: 678
As long as lust is let to manifest it will always be spiritually harmful.
You are right that people of all ages visit these forums, and it would probably be best to use the course forums about topics like this since greater detail and better explanation will be given.
Observation and retrospection can give a lot of answers about our behaviour.
Regards,
Join Date: 2005-06-12
Forum Posts: 199
I still failed to understand the whole concept of sexual energies. As people have said it, masturbation helps release sexual tension without all the associated risks such as diseases during sexual intercourse. I heard that there are many positive benefits on masturbation for both men and women and such as:
1.For women it can help reduce cramping
2.For men and women, it helps to stimulate the immune system to help build up resistance to common infections
3.Release mood-elevating hormones that help ward off depression
4.Reduce the number of unwanted wet dreams for young men. Thus, problem of excess semen finds its own solution in the form of a spontaneous (usually nocturnal) emission.
5.Now recently, new studies have found, as it says on BBC news, men could reduce their risk of developing prostate cancer through regular masturbation. As researchers have said, ejaculation can prevents carcinogens building up in the gland. In other words, the more you flush the ducts out, the less there is to hang around and damage the cells that line them. Similar connection has been found between breast cancer and breastfeeding, where lactating appeared to "flush out" carcinogens, reduce a woman's risk of the disease.
6. Not masturbating will result in storing seminal fluids for long periods which can cause prostate congestion, which in turn can lead to urinary and ejaculatory pain.
7. Masturbating will increase our odds of producing offspring because masturbation eliminates the old seminal fluids and replace with a new fresh seminal fluids. Older sperm can lose their ability to swim well. A good masturbatory flush guarantees fresh, robust sperm for mating.
8.Females masturbating regularly with multiple orgasms develop strong PC muscles and should have easier labor.
etc, etc, etc. The bottom line is that people need to release old seminal fluids either through sex or masturbation.
These are facts given by doctors who have higher doctoral research degree that very few doctors hold.
They spend years learning in universities and working in hospitals. You can make your own search on internet or ask your own doctor about the benefits of masturbation.
Now for those people who claim that masturbation is extremely harmful for everything, do you have doctorate degrees? Have you graduated from a medicine school? Have you worked in hospitals?
As I said before I still failed to understand why masturbation is bad for astral projection if masturbation actually does good for a human body.
And what do you mean there is a certain of having sex? What kind of sex is that? Are you refering to sex without semen ejaculation?
I also heard from forums that "sex must be done without lust in a very pure manner". This statement absolutely make no sense. As far as I understand and when I talked to various friends, students, and strangers, they simply have sex in order to eliminate their sexual tensions by eliminating seminial fluids. Is that simple. Nothing to do with lust.
Join Date: 2004-09-05
Forum Posts: 1370
I can understand how this can be confusing. I am not here to argue one way or the other. In my field, we do a lot of research and I think the medical industry works in a similar way regarding how studies are conducted and published. Here are some words of caution:
From my understanding a lot of these studies are correlational in nature, meaning that there is an association between two factors (i.e., masturbation is associated with decreased prostate cancer). Correlational studies are not intended to imply a causal relationship (i.e., masturbating reduces prostate cancer). This means that there could be many possible ways to explain why these two factors may increase or decrease together.
You can look at the particular study and the methodology used to determine whether it is a correlational study. This is important because a lot of times the implications of these study results are inappropriately extended beyond what was actual shown in the study. There are also a lot of other factors (e.g., the media and politics) that affect how study findings are used and presented to the general public.
These studies are often published in peer-reviewed journals. Typically, a study has the best chances of being published if the researchers found significant results, meaning there is a correlation between two factors. However, for every published study showing significant results, there are likely many more studies that have not shown a relationship between the two factors, or even a relationship in the opposite direction (e.g., increase masterbation is associated with high rates of prostate cancer). These studies don't make it into the journals... so, the general public really doesn't get all of the information necessary to draw valid conclusions based on these studies, in my opinion.
None of the studies investigate the spiritual ramifications of how we use the sexual energies. The information provided in the teachings here are there for us to consider. It provides a different perspective that touches on the spiritual aspects that are not considered in the medical industry.
Gabrielle
Join Date: 2005-06-12
Forum Posts: 199
I am not sure where you are standing, but are you assuming that every point I made there that the media and politics actually that affect how study findings are used and presented to the general public? I am not sure what exactly you are trying to say?
Actually all the stuff I said, (maybe I can exclude number 5 because that was just recently found) is known for long time to be true and has nothing to do with media and politics. In fact, the way media and politics potrait masturbation as shameful and unnatural. Isn't this why so many people are embarrassed to admit that they masturbate?
By the way I live in USA and I asked my doctor these questions and its against the law for a doctor to provide wrong informations to patients that have no legal facts because doctor can be seriously liable with jail time and fine and loss of his doctorate license. So if a doctor tells you something, he or she must give you answers according to facts which are accepted by FDA Food and Drug Administration and APHA (American Public Health Association) and not to his or her personal beliefs.
"From my understanding a lot of these studies are correlational in nature, meaning that there is an association between two factors (i.e., masturbation is associated with decreased prostate cancer). Correlational studies are not intended to imply a causal relationship (i.e., masturbating reduces prostate cancer). This means that there could be many possible ways to explain why these two factors may increase or decrease together. "
While you might be right what you said above in statement, however, the studies that has repeatedly shown that one of the factors that was reponsible for influencing was masturbation. Yes you are right, there can be other factors but masturbation was one of the factors that has constantly showed up in the studies therefore, scientists could not exclude masturbation. Thus if something is consistenlty showing up in the studies then it cannot be excluded. That is how the studies are conducted.
But no matter what, I will definitely want to ask my divine mother or spiritual beings about this matter. This is something I could learn. But until then, there is nothing wrong with masturbation that the media and politics has wrongly potraited.
Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2748
From esoteric perspective, masturbation makes spiritual work impossible, and this fact can be investigated only by internal science.
No scientific proves from the medicine we know can relate in any extent to Spiritual Work, it's like trying to fix a computer with umbrella.
All the Light!