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Sat, 07/07/2007 - 05:15
Anonymous

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Hello everyone,I would appreciate hearing out your thoghts about any activity that produce adrenalin rush - like parachutism. Do you think it's going against the work and the peaceful self-observative and awareful state that we are all trying to maintain?Because I'am interested in experiencing the feeling of approaching the earth on a high speed in my physical body, also to see the fear before and during the jump taking over me, It seems as a discovering experience, but I'am not shure if I won't delibaratly feed this ego, so I need to hear your opinions, a specially if some of you allrerady been there. Thank you in advance.

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Sat, 07/07/2007 - 07:02
MikeL

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Hi gyorgi,

Personally, I'd say that those sorts of activities just feed the egos.

At one point, I was convinced that going on rollercoaster rides and other amusement park rides that were exhilarating were simply experiences that would help me to learn more about myself... but as I looked deeper, I saw that this thinking was simply a justification to feed various egos like excitement, fear, lust, etc.

By leading a simple enough life (neither hiding from egos nor inducing them), we will get a chance to face all of our various egos. For example with those "adrenaline egos" and egos of fear, maybe we will be in an airplane and experience a lot of turbulence or maybe we will get startled by an angry dog running towards us... These sorts of events can teach us just as much as anything else, but we don?t have to actively search them out ? they just seem to happen naturally sometimes.

I hope this helps.

All the best!

ML
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Sat, 07/07/2007 - 09:38
David G

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Hi Gyorgi,

I'd be inclined to follow Mike's advice :)

The other thing to consider is the situation you're putting yourself in if you did decide to jump out of a plane.

Skydiving is a potentially harmful activity (I know they have very good safety mechanisms, as I looked into skydiving awhile ago) but people still die doing it. I imagine it would be a horrible feeling to pull your release cord and have your parachute fail and know that soon you were going to hit the ground and not survive. I used to ride a motorbike, and I put myself in danger a lot of times, not necessarily by riding unsafely, but just in the act of riding. I thought nothing would happen to me until one day a car pulled out in front of me and there was nothing I could do except run into it. I'm just glad I didn't get badly injured!!

If you really want to try it, maybe you could in the astral. It wouldn't be your physical body, but you'd get an idea what it was like and you'd know what effect the emotions had on you if they come up (plus if you hit the ground you'll just go through it :) ).

Take care,
David

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Sat, 07/07/2007 - 10:02
Gabrielle

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Hi Gyorgi,

Whether you decide to or not, it's also important to make a conscious decision. I wouldn't make any decision until you feel it is right. Don't forget, there is a unique opportunity for self-discovery where you are right now. The decision making process in this situation alone can help you to learn about the egos. The means by which you make the decision is just as important as the end result.

One thing that helps me to make conscious decisions is the mantra ISIS. It helps with clairvoyance, but it also helps us to see and understand things more clearly at another level. I use it when I am confused and don't know whether I am following my heart or my egos. It helps me to differentiate between the two.

If you put forth efforts to make a conscious decision and do what is right, I am sure that you will be guided.

Gabrielle
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Sat, 07/07/2007 - 11:12
gyorgi (not verified)

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Thank you guys for your insights, it is what I already thought and only wanted to see how you see such activities. I will pass by.

Much strenght to all of you.
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Tue, 07/10/2007 - 09:25
David G

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To you too Gyorgi. I remember seeing a video of my little sister just before she jumped out of a plane. She kept on saying something like 'Argh, I don't want to die, I don't want to die', she was pretty frightened! :)

Gabrielle, How long did you have to do the ISIS mantra (what period of time I mean, rather than how long were the practices) to find that it worked that way for you?

What you described sounds like something I've been in need of for ages! So thankyou :)

David
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Wed, 07/11/2007 - 10:57
Juliana

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Thank you Gabrielle. I think you had given me a great clue to help myself. Confused like ....
Thanks heaps,
Juliana
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Mon, 07/23/2007 - 00:35
ptr1968

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hello,

I used to have a job with had several adrenaline activities in it. The first 2 times obviously I felt some of this adrenaline, but after a while it just goes away and the job/activity becomes a routine, 'just another day at the office' .
Now I don't think it is good to feed ego's. The divine plan is coming with situations in astral and physical in which we get tested anyway.
When fear is a factor, you will see it in dreams. Although fear of dying is only one of the many fears.

On the other side it is also no good to fear the fear, i mean to run away for it, as I was just confronted with this...

'do not resist evil' Judas, featherd serpent




Peter
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Mon, 07/23/2007 - 02:33
Gabrielle

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Hi David,

Sorry, I didn't see that question until this was brought back up to the top of the forum. It seems to take a few days to start seeing a subtle change in perception. It sort of fine tunes the lens. I find that after a few days, I become less identified with the egos that are preventing me from seeing the situation clearly or being sincere with myself.

However, I can recall a situation in which I needed to make a decision quickly and used it and mantra O and found that it did help me right away. Because I was motivated, I was able to concentrate well while pronouncing the mantras and could really feel the chakras spinning. Afterward, I felt a sense of peace with the decision I made and was confident that I wasn't allowing the egos to make the decision for me.

It was recommended in one of the self-discovery exercises (week 8) to use in conjunction with the study of anger. Master Belzebuub says some things about it there on the exercise page that may help to clarify. The first time I read it and started using it, it really made a lot of sense.

Gabrielle