Astral Projection and Sleep stages

I was always wondering why people like me, sometime cannot remember their dreams when they wake up or why people who became aware in the astral and realized they are dreaming they still cannot remember that they were aware in the astral during that night ?

Hi FIIGO,

By reading your other post on this forum that you have wrote a couple of hours ago, you are someone who knows why we don't remember astral experiences, so I put this explanation for others who might read your question.

According to my understanding, it is because the level of wakefulness is very low. During the day I constantly find my self leaning towards day dreams, in the same manner sometimes I remember doing the same thing at night, while sleeping, jumping from one scenario to another but being unaware of the present moment.

Untill this day dreaming proccess contineous, nothing will change and the mind will keep on falling into "self-fascination".

The more awake and detached from my self I live during the day, the better I can come out of self-fascination at night, remove the subconscious googles from my eyes, and see what is beyond my screen.

Forgetfulness in your self is the main reason for not remembering your self.

Hi Gyorgi

Actually my question was why people who became aware in the astral and realized they are dreaming they still cannot remember that they were aware in the astral during that night ? Look what I wrote...I said people who do become aware in the astral but still cannot remember when they wake up in physical.

So basically thank you for the answer but it's more suited for explaining how to wake up from the dreams not remembering dreams. Unless remembering dreams is directly linked to how much awareness somebody has in the astral. I am not sure.

Is it true that remembering dreams is also directly linked to how much sleep a person has??

Is it true that if a person sleep late at night like around 1am or 2am then we are less aware in the astral?

How would you know that you were aware in the astral if you don't remember it?

In my experience, the less aware you are while you project, the more blurry and abstract the memory of it is.

Now you can be aware that you are physically asleep, and that this isn't "real", but still be for pretty much all intents and purposes, unaware.

Much like being heavily intoxicated, your thoughts are scattered and broken, the scenes tend to be nonsensical and 'wrong'--meaning you go to sleep in china, and wake up in your bed, walk out your door only to find out that your house is apparently on the coast of California.--Subconscious projection most likely causes these sort of things, and is generally a sign of being unaware.

Next time you project, force yourself to calmly walk and experience the sensations of the astral. Don't fly, or do anything exciting. Just walk along forward, hear what ever sounds you can, smell any smells, pick up some dirt and rub it through your fingers, if you find something edible, eat it and taste it.

You'll find that while this seems like such a simple idea, and should be easy to do, once your there, your mind wanders, as it does in normal life, but as it does, your surroundings, and entire thought process start to change/wander as well.

This is a big challenge, because if you have a projection of any decent duration, this wandering can easily throw you into unawareness, and make it merely a dream again.

The only pseudo-scientific logic I can offer is that as you project, your thoughts, conscious and subconscious affect the world around you, which in return affect your thoughts, with a feed back effect. So with a very day dreamy, or self-fascination, brain, it won't take long for the feedback loop to become overpowering, and so convoluted that it leaves you unaware.

Thank you Midknight for the answer. I understand the important of awareness and of course I always try my best to be aware during the day.

I am also curious to know:

Is it true that remembering dreams is also directly linked to how much sleep a person has??

Is it true that if a person sleep late at night like around 1am or 2am then we are less aware in the astral?

It is partially linked to how much sleep you get. If your mind is very exhausted, remembering dreams and maintaining awareness is very difficult to do. But the time you sleep is probably not very important, if not completely irrelevant.

Sleeping at 1 or 2 am has never caused any problems for me, my own sleep schedule fluctuates wildly on a week to week, and sometimes a day to day basis. Sometimes I'll get tired at 8 pm, sometimes I won't be able to fall asleep until 7 or 8 in the morning, and frankly, all other times during the day/night.

Though, a regular schedule does generally help with most pursuits, since it helps to keep one persistent and consistent.

But it's not necessarily how much sleep a person gets, but how exhausted their mind is when they attempt to project, and how skilled/familiar they are with it.

I personally tend to project best after I have gotten a short nights sleep, (4-6 hours), and take a nap mid day. As my mind seems to be more rested than my body, at least apparently. This allows my body to fall asleep, at least in theory, faster than my mind. Most of my projections occur after I am 'snapped' into awareness by exit sensations, and once the paralysis sets in, it's only a matter of very short patience to project..

However, this random projection is not reliable, and I am not able to project very often. I can probably still count all the times I have projected without stressing my mind too much.