Shooting myselft out of lucidity...

Shooting myselft out of lucidity...

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Sat, 05/14/2005 - 17:37
Anonymous

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My issue is that I?ve been jumping into lucidity by getting myself into situations where people are shooting at me. I?m terrified and the only way to get out of the scenario is to fly away, which is what I usually do and as soon as I begin to fly I realize I?m dreaming and then become lucid.Then one dream I had a month or two ago took place at an outdoor concert. I was walking through the parking lot to leave when I noticed some swat or special force type characters huddled along a line of cars. It was dark and I couldn?t make out what they were doing but I figured something unsavory was taking place and that they were going to bust some ?bad people.? Then I realized that swat was all over the parking lot and had actually cornered off quite a few blocks. My first instinct was to get out of the way of whatever was happening. I heard a rumble coming from behind me. It was a bulldozer with its front scoop removed and in its place was a plexus-glass capsule that was segmented into sections. In each section there were people who had been detained. This struck me with such fear that I didn?t move until a small blazing line of bright white fire flew passed me and then I heard a gun shot. Swat had begun to shoot at people. I started to run and as has happened in the past I tried to fly to get away; as I got ten feet off the ground I could see over all the cars. There were swat all over the place with their super technologically advanced tools and machinery. One swat member began firing at me narrowly missing my head. I immediately fell to the ground knowing that this was a warning shot and that I was not allowed to flee. However, I ran as fast as I could across the street which for some reason was off limits to their activities. This shot was specifically telling me, "You won't become lucid if I have anything to do with it." This dream was so disturbing that I felt as if I was being beaten by my psyche. I felt as if the mind police have won. They thought disgust me. Well last night I had a similar dream only this time I don?t remember much except that I believe I was trying to flee again and I wasn?t going to let them stop me. Their fire white bullets screamed passed me as I began to ascend then one struck me searing my flesh and as I fell back to the ground another struck me and then another. I believe I might have died after that. Then in the darkness of death I began to move in and out of lucidity but if I remember correctly I didn?t really achieve it. At least at this moment I don?t believe I did.    These dreams are really disturbing. I can?t tell you how many times I fall asleep only to be shot at and while sometimes I overcome them and move into lucidity, it is not the path that I want to take. The fact that I?m suddenly being shot out of the air by these high powered machines is that much more insane because in my dreams they are to many, to fast, and to accurate to escape from. I feel like I'm battling myself for some unknown reason. Here are some of my thoughts on it.    I feel trapped.   I?m not getting past these guns   Why are there so many guns in my dreams?   What?s with the twisted hostility?   It could be a test I?m administering to my self. Why?   Yes I do feel trapped in my waking life by my own doing of course. I?ve been shot at before and killed when I wasn?t feeling trapped. And while those were strange they weren?t on the same level as these dreams.   I get frustrated with myself for not recognizing that I?m dreaming while I?m dreaming. That is I will literally be in a dream that has turned sour and I will know that I?m dreaming yet I?m not getting beyond that. For example in the dream I had last night I realized I was dreaming and that I had to try to fly no matter that I was being shot at. I said to my self, ?This is a dream so fly, run, get out of here and don?t worry about being shot. Since you know you are dreaming you won?t get shot and if you do you won?t be hurt.? I end up getting shot. And it hurts. I can still feel the sting.   Then today I think I felt weird all day, however, since I sat down to write, this dream from last night resurfaced and the act of remembering it has eased my mind a little.   I guess I should pose a question to those who have read this far. Here it is. What do you think is going on here? Why are these particular scenarios so disturbing? And why has my mind stepped up the difficulty of the game? (Most of my lucid dreams are not started in this manner; however this method has become more prevalent in the last year.)

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Sun, 05/15/2005 - 02:57
Tutmozis 6

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Greeting t.e.d,

It?s hard to answer from our viewpoint, because your dreams represent your psychological life, and that is just for you. You need to understand it !

Policemen have symbolic meaning ( its explained at Astral course ) and also shootings.
However, maybe you are too fascinated at daily life with special forces like SWAT or maybe you play too lot on computers games like that or too much violent movies :)

You need to listen your Intuition what telling you about that. The first feeling about that dream when you wake up. There exist techniques for developing ( strengthening ) Intuition ( its explained at Searching Within course ).

Also, since you achieved few times lucid dream thanks from that?I really cant say what is all about?its your job :)
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Sun, 05/15/2005 - 10:51
Michael S

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Wow ted! The details you describe show that those dreams were quite lucid. This is good! It's much better to have dreams like this than vague, obscure and chaotic dreams with little meaning to them.

How you describe the gunmen in your dream as being a oppressing force that is trying to keep you from becoming lucid by creating fear within you, thus keeping you attached and fascinated with what's going on in the dream is quite a common thing.

You are correct when you say that you are "battling yourself". This is exactly how it is actually. Most of the things contained in our dreams are projections of the subconscious mind which we call 'egos'. The egos manifest constantly throughout our daily lives in many subtle or not-so subtle ways. Fear, anger, pride, lust, envy, laziness, etc. are a few examples of egos. However, in our dreams that take place within the astral plane, the egos manifest in symbolic forms, in order to create the situations that they thrive upon in these 'subconscious illusions'. For example, an ego of fear can create a dream such as the one you describe; trapping your consciousness (the essential 'you') within it.

Most of these dreams are not actually real events that are taking place in the astral plane. They are more like hallucinations. When you start to become 'lucid' in a dream, you begin to wake up from this dream by becoming aware of it. However, the egos that are prevailent in the dream do not want you to wake up in this respect because they are feeding from your energy when you are immersed in the dreams (this is why strong emotional outbursts or tendencies of fear, anger, lust, etc. leave us somewhat exhausted at the end of the day...or night even).

If you were to continue fighting against those oppressive forces in those dreams by becoming more lucid, detached, and aware of yourself in those situations, you will be able to make those dreams stop and more importantly, you will be able to use this opportunity in the astral plane to learn or experience something meaningful...such as investigating spiritual matters and such.

However, you can't fight against those forces by using the mind as you have been doing with how you try to rationalize that "it's only a dream". As you have seen, it just doesn't work. This is because the consciousness and the mind are two entirely different parts of us. The consciousness is the essential, spiritual part of us and this is what needs to be exercised and fed if we want it to manifest more. The mind is a tool for either our consciousness or those subconscious egos to use. As I'm sure you have observed, sometimes our mind doesn't stop or it seems to 'use us' instead; this is the egos in the mind in action.

To exercise the consciousness, you have to make an effort to just be aware in the simplest, most natural way you can. Also, doing things like concentration and meditation exercises can help with this (you can read about many exercises at www.mysticweb.org or www.astralweb.com)

See if you can seperate yourself from fear anytime you recognize it in your life. Fear can be in the thoughts, feelings in the emotions, tensions in the body, in certain movements and body language, etc. Once you recognize an aspect of it, just be aware of it and make an effort to stop it from continuing by relaxing and observing what is actually going on. The more you do this in daily life, the more you will be able to do this in those dreams, which will weaken that fear they create in you.

There is more to this, but this is a start.

Everything I just mentioned has worked wonders for me. I learned how to do this through the courses offered here. I would definately recommend signing up and seeing what you can get out of them.

Good luck,
Michael S