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Xanom
Join Date: 2003-10-27 Forum Posts: 79 |
Hello.It is as such that my sister and her husband is going through some rough times, they are married but it seems that my sister wishes to divorce but has not yet told her husband. They have two children and it appears she stays for that reason. Today my mother asked me "Can you please help them solve their problems?" The only thing I know can solve this is gnosis as I know it. I believe however that her hearing my ideas of how to solve their problem will appear unorthodox. Does anyone have any experience in this matter? I've already found out that alot people laugh at the idea, people which are in love with their egos. Since everyone has the essence, how can it not appeal? Is it just a matter of giving up on a person in need because it is more or less not meant for them to learn this life? How far does one go before realizing it is just too clouded to get through? This is my blood, I want to be able to help. Much strength. |
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Join Date: 2004-09-08
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I'm sorry to hear about your issue. I think Apakhana is right saying that you can only point them to gnosis, but it is ultimately up to them whether they try it or not.
The drive for inner change has to come from within a person and sometimes all we can give them is advice and of course our support. Some time ago I received a dream symbol about the negative state that a relative of mine was about to fall in. Soon when it happened I pointed him to gnosis, but he wasn't interested, so I tried to help him as much as I could with my attitude towards him and regular sincere prayers.
Everythng we say is heard so don't underestimate the power of a prayer.
All the best with going through this,
pavlin
Join Date: 2003-10-27
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I will attempt contact with them and with that I shall also pray.
Much strength.
Join Date: 2006-05-12
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praying for them is one of the things you can do and watching your egos-self observation is another thing you can do (like do you feel anger for your brother in law or your sister? Do you feel obliged and responsible for their life? Do you feel sad for your sister or her husband? Do you have images on doing something? How do you feel about the two kids? What are your thoughts and beliefs about marriage, divorces, relationships? Are you attached to your sister? Do you feel obliged to your mother?)
From this experience you can definately find out many things about your self. Gnosis teaches us that everything that happens in our life, happens for a reason and it also happens so that we can progress our level of consciousness.
As for your urge to do something... I agree that you could pray for all of them and try to introduce them to gnosis. Also, it is best if you could act based on your awareness (and not allow any ego such as anger, sadness, fears, pride etc, to intrfere). Sometimes if we act based on our egos (and not our consciousness) we might find our selves in trouble, blamed for taking a position or blaming somone or saying something we shouldn't.
However, (I am talking from experience) sometimes when people dont want to listen about anything divine, we just need to stay detached and let them deal with their decisions without interfering, no matter how much we love them. I know it sounds "insensitive", but from spiritual perspective, interfering may mean interfering with their karma and their choices. Maybe some people need to experience a divorce in order to change or look at life from a different perspetive and sometimes a divorce can be the best thing that happens to them (its not necessarily a bad thing) .
Any way, my point is that we always need to have in mind that despite how much we love some people, when they refuse any spiritual help, we should not interfere with their choices and decisions (and thus respect their freedom) while at the same time try to be there for them, support them and listen to them when they need us.
Join Date: 2004-02-08
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I can get your feelings but everyone has Karma to go through in this world. Specially in relationships like husband and wife it would create Karma if we interfere in their decision.
Yes as someone had suggested praying helps. Also the more you learn to understand your egos, and the advanced courses here will teach you to be more aware.
So many sufferings pass by but we all should remember that we are born as a human being and we are only wasting time hearing and undergoing numerous sufferings with egos and KArma. Every human being is capable of liberating themselves from this suffering by taking up the esoteric path. Its upto each one of us. Now you have the opportunity and make good use of it. Maybe in future your sister might find the change in you, a great inspiration to take up the inner work.
Thats the best we could do.
All the strength in your work,
Juliana
Join Date: 2004-11-30
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Sounds like a very difficult situation for you too, because we tend to have so many egos around our families.
Definetely introduction into Gnosis can help a lot but a person must personally want it and search for it.
We can't force it by any means.
For myself, like it was mentioned, I try to pray for my family members, work with egos between us and keep up with my practices. Then it helps for me to be more useful for them.
It all helps me to speak more adequately to the precise situation we are currently in.
Like it was mentioned, Karma is an issue, without spiritual work, it only accumulates.
Then we all have our own pathes, however, sure, we do have obligations to our families and need to help them the best we can.
I wish you all the strength to overcome it, it's quite a challenge, I wish them to find all the happiness and peace, in one way or another!
All the best!!!
Join Date: 2004-09-05
Forum Posts: 1424
A marriage is committment recognized by divine law. So, to end a marriage would be breaking a spiritual committment, there could be consequences to this in that respect.
I would try to persuade her to consider other options. Their relationship could change for the better and they could gain so much strength if they are able to overcome obstacles together. If she's willing to look within and make changes, of course that would be great. Really, there are a lot of things from the teachings here that would be helpful and applicable.
When trying to help someone, there are some things you can do to prepare.
First, you can try to put yourself in that person's shoes. There may be some egos that seem to be guiding her decision. If there are some egos that seem to be a particular obstacle for the person, you could try to gain an understanding of them within yourself. If you have taken the Searching Within course, try using the meditation on an ego technique. Then, watch for these egos throughout the day.
Second, it helps to pray for a better understanding of the egos and other obstacles that are present. You could pray for a teaching in a dream. Perhaps there is something that your sister isn't seeing? Maybe there is something in particular that might help her?
Third, try to be open and pray for intuition and guidance when talking with her about this situation. Try to be in the moment and you will likely find that the right words just come to you or that you get this really great idea of how to help, etc...This has worked for me.
Those are some ways that you might be able to help her more. Good luck with all of this. This is also a great opportunity for you to learn in a number of ways, also :)
Gabrielle