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Tue, 01/16/2007 - 18:36
james baughan

Join Date: 2007-01-02
Forum Posts: 46

as i was falling asleep i started to see grafiti on my wall or it was words on my wall . i just dont know what it is . i was sliping into the astral and was caching glimpses of it on my wall.

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Tue, 01/16/2007 - 22:23
Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2930
Hi James!

Things like this can happen. And?

There is nothing to be scared of in Astral or in any other worlds. Really.

However the real understanding of this evident fact comes only with elimination of those fear egos, using the specific methods taught in the Gnostic courses.

Then you can use conjurations too, if you feel something is wrong, they dispel all the negativity quite easily.

All the best with your new practices!
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Tue, 01/16/2007 - 22:52
Dave H

Join Date: 2005-08-17
Forum Posts: 133
Hello James,

It's interesting you say this because i have had a very similar experience. All i can say is that its either just egos or its some sort of negative influence. Either way the writing is harmless.
Negative entities try all sorts of silly tricks to scare you away from the astral. Just keep going at it and use the conjurations if you have them.

Kind regards,

Dave.
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Tue, 01/16/2007 - 23:14
Robert B

Join Date: 2004-05-29
Forum Posts: 87
Hi James,

As we are falling asleep we can see "dream images" coming
from the subconscious when near the point of splitting. These can distract us from our practice.

Having said that, I think its good to pay attention to anything written on a wall in the astral, as this may give us valuable insights into our inner progress. No need to be scared though.

Much strength with your efforts.
Rob

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Wed, 01/17/2007 - 12:19
james baughan

Join Date: 2007-01-02
Forum Posts: 46
my brother said that when he tried the techniq he saw a big R on the wall and he thought that he was going crazy. and this all happend the same night when i saw grafiti on the wall
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Wed, 01/17/2007 - 12:24
james baughan

Join Date: 2007-01-02
Forum Posts: 46
is this bad when you get halfway sleep, you feel and see confused, you would see messyness andfeel confused and thin it all goes straight for a moment.
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Wed, 01/17/2007 - 14:18
Olga

Join Date: 2003-08-30
Forum Posts: 112
Hi James,

When you are getting closer to sleep its really common for our thoughts and emotions to seem real and vivid. They can start to become louder, more tangible and like Robert said, they begin to take the shape of dream images.

So its good you are noticing this as it means you are inches away, but this time is crucial to regain a strong concentration and not be distracted by anything else but the astral technique you are using so that you can get straight into the astral plane and have a successful experience. If you pay too close attention to the different thoughts and images you may just be pulled into a dream rather than a conscious astral experience.

Olga
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Wed, 01/17/2007 - 16:05
Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2930
Hi James,

just try to be in the moment.

Fear is something external. Fear is something to observe and transform.
There is so much to learn, to discover and to experience when we are aware.

I wish everybody to confront all their fears, look into their eyes and win over their influences!
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Wed, 01/17/2007 - 23:22
james baughan

Join Date: 2007-01-02
Forum Posts: 46
can you see the same images since child age, for they are the same image i seen since then. when i was young i coud get out but know it seems so hard like it never happend in the first place. but like the moral says, if you dont use it you will lose it.

i want to use it, any reasons why i cant do it more easyly know. till this day i dont know how i did it