Astral travel is wrong!

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Sat, 08/26/2006 - 09:28
Anonymous

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Why else would people die from it? I've heard of people who kept being told to go back until the people on the other side got so fed up with it that so they killed the people who Astral travelled. I will withdraw myself from the courses and these forums forever. Goodbye now. Yeah, they say it's safe. But when will you notice the dangers? I've been trying (and I've been on these forums) since April and I don't like what I was told earlier. If yuo want to go to the Astral so much, then you should just wait 'till you die!

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Sat, 08/26/2006 - 11:45
Jon H.

Join Date: 2006-06-21
Forum Posts: 142
This is absurd.

EmeraldSpirit, I hope you come to your senses one day, for your own sake. Please try to realize that we go to the Astral every time we go to sleep, we just aren't fully conscious when we do so.

That is all that needs to be said really.
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Sat, 08/26/2006 - 12:37
Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2635
And doors to come back are always opened.

It's up to us what to do even we always get the consequences.

All the Light in your path Emerald Spirit!
All the Light!!!
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Sat, 08/26/2006 - 20:45
Anton Berlin

Join Date: 2005-10-05
Forum Posts: 14
What are you talking about? What kind of rumors is that? That has never happened, I can promise you that, because if that were true, then everyone that sleep, would sooner or later be killed by them. It is not possible for them to kill us anyway, since they'd need to be very developed to do that, and if they were "fed up" with us, and decided to kill us, then they'd be full of egos, and since you need to lose at least 50% of your egos to escape the need of reincarnation, they couldn't be full of egos. Btw, to even get to know things like this, they'd need to be VERY aware, and since if their egos would be in controle, they wouldn't be that aware at ALL, which means that this is impossible ^^ I'd like to see where you even got this information from. Maybe a negative beeing? Maybe a very egoistic person, that really doesn't want you to continue your spiritual developement?

Btw, I didn't write the above to upset you in any way, I was just explaining to you why the things that you said could not be,and are not true. I hope that you will open your eyes some day, and find out that this is not harmful in any way, and then continue with it.

All the best,
Anton Berlin
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Sun, 08/27/2006 - 10:33
EmeraldSpirit (not verified)

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I know we go there when we sleep. That's normal. What's not normal is when we force ourselves there.

If you want to talk about how the bible mentions it, you should realise the prophets are supposed to talk to God.

And finally, I want to thank the people who helped me out during my stay, and that I don't hate you people. I just hope you all come to your senses. The person I trust more than anyone else told me this, so I am going with it because the explanation I was given made sense.

You might see me as XD375 somewhere else. And WhitePsychic Shane here with my old account.
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Sun, 08/27/2006 - 10:46
EmeraldSpirit (not verified)

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Sorry about the double post.

I will admit you are all nice people and it was nice knowing you.
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Mon, 08/28/2006 - 00:20
tos

Join Date: 2006-07-05
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hi!. iam just a new student here..
and...

And iam not forcing myself to Ap. but iam teaching myself to Ap.

;D

you are always welcome to go back in this Wonderful Community.

:) ;) :D
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Mon, 08/28/2006 - 08:28
Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2635
One of the reasons why we can't astral project consciously is because we force ourselves to do it.

Relaxation plus concentration plus sleep equals conscious astral projection.
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Sun, 09/03/2006 - 10:50
MaxRISC

Join Date: 2006-09-01
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I hope she isn't reading the latest edition of the Catholic Constantine 553AD King James version of the bible.

Seriously though....besides making a spirit think he is an object...like being a body and not being aware of himself....how would it be possible to kill something that cannot die?

Look about the Earth and you will not find more than 10% of the population even aware that they are a spiritual being having a human experience. To me...those people are dead. So time to wake up and get out of your head for a change.






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Sun, 09/03/2006 - 11:01
MaxRISC

Join Date: 2006-09-01
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One thing I thought of is that maybe the names Samael and Beelzebuub are restimulating a past event for her.
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Sat, 09/09/2006 - 01:50
MaxRISC

Join Date: 2006-09-01
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I can understand your predicament. My parents think it is wrong, of the devil and all that stuff. My girlfriend doesn't believe in any of this either. But that doesn't stop me. I know what it is like to be outside of my body and fully aware of what is going on around me.

It's hard to describe it but it truly is an amazing feeling!

I know we should obey our parents and all of that stuff but sometimes there are situations when we can't. You'll have to remember that they are trying to protect you because you are their kid. He doesn't understand what you are studying and probably will never understand. Sometimes parents also make bad judgement calls. They are only telling you from their own experience and that experience usually comes from when they were a kid too. It's not always right and it's not always fair. So where matters of the family are concerned simply follow their rules....do your chores, homework, get good grades and all that jazz...but where matters of the spirit are concerned...well you have been around for quite some time so you are the best one to make the decisions about yourself and your level of awareness.

One thing that happened to me when I started to tell everyone that I could get out of my body and do stuff when I was younger was that I was looked at like I was a demon child. A lot of people think it is wrong to get outside of yourself. I wouldn't worry about it. I would simply practice in private and not talk about it to anyone. No one is really going to believe you anyway. Even when you start to practice and your abilities start turning back on like mine did you are going to have to be careful about who you tell things to. One of the things that will happen if you talk about it to other people who do not understand is that they will become afraid of you. They think that if you can get out of your body and make preditions that you might somehow be able to injure them.

One thing that they don't realize is that the more your awareness increases, the less you really even care to deal with the so called "normal" people who are asleep and not even aware that they ARE asleep.

I have learned not to talk about my stuff around my girlfriend and life became a lot easier for me. Nowadays when I want something I just focus on it and it happens. Life is not very difficult any more. She often will be amazed because I will want something and it either happens immediately or within the next few days. When it does it amazes her and she asks..."What?! Do you lead some kind of charmed life or something?!" To which I simply respond, "Yep" and that is the end of the conversation.

One of the most important things that I do want to stress here is that you don't try any drugs. Drugs have a way of locking the spirit down inside the body and making it more difficult for him to get out and take a look. LSD is probably the worst one of the drugs but they all do the same things. So just watch what you put into your body. Try to keep the inside as clean as possible. Clear body equals clear mind.

I would also like to encourage you to keep practicing. It is a lot easier to get out when you are young. You'll be quite surprised after you do it and put all this work into it that you will almost think to yourself.."Wow that wasn't hard at all!"

So keep practicing!