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Jeremiah Catron-Black
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When I first learned about AP, I was told it is not attached to any particular religion. Was I misinformed. Either way, even if this stuff is completely unrelated to AP, I still want to know. I guess I'm a bit uninformed on the subject, but have always been facinated by learning other religions. |
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Yes, astral projection is not attached to any particular religion, however when we go there we can use that time for inner work: for example investigate the roots of our problems, learn what happens when people die, encounter different beings etc.
As I know them, all the religions try to give an answers for those questions but leave us with dilemma: beleive it or not.
Then Gnosticweb position is different from it in the sense that students are encouraged to investigate all those matters by themselves, thus using their astral time more productively.
"Gnosis" means knowledge gained from experience. Courses give a variety of tools to gain it, it becomes sort of inner science.
Good luck with your experiences!
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Gnostic is a person pursuing inner knowledge gained from personal experiences in the frame of Gnosticism.
It means going between all beleifs and scepticism, trying to find the truth, what is real, with the tools and approach of Gnosticism.
You can read "Gnosis through the Ages" from the left side menu (http://www.gnosticweb.com/index.php?PageID=59) to learn what is Gnosticism.
Hope it helps.
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Does it matter really if it is a religion or not or what differs it from this and that?
For me it is something practical that gives me the opportunity to transform the selves in order to let the Being to manifest completely.
What matters in the end is the work on yourself and the experiences you have had being in the astral or the physical plane.
This remind me of one experience that I have in my village.I decided to practice particular meditation and I said I don't care what they will think of me when they see me coz I do it for myself.I had some sheets of paper with me and my aunt got interested as what I was doing and there was the word OOOOMMM and she read that and began to laugh and then told me this is a sect and better watch out coz they brainwash the people's heads and my grandma began talking about this and etc. etc.
What they could see with their knowledge was a sect or a religion and everything bad connected with it but I see in this something practical for myself, something that makes me more alive and filled with joy and love and peace.
Calling yourself a gnostic or christian or buddist? does it make you more gnostic for example? You are what you are - you are the Being itself.You are everything and everything is a part of you. What's the use of labeling yourself and set limitations that way?
I wish you a blessful night/day!
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Thanks I'll give that a look.
Sorry for the interruption but few thoughts appeared after reading this.
[Does it matter really if it is a religion or not or what differs it from this and that?
For me it is something practical that gives me the opportunity to transform the selves in order to let the Being to manifest completely.
What matters in the end is the work on yourself and the experiences you have had being in the astral or the physical plane.]-Well, when you get all theological and start talking about it like a science (with the 8 dimensions and what not) it just seems like it has to be a religion. And don't get the idea I would turn it down if I was, I'm a very open person and currently have no religion.
[This remind me of one experience that I have in my village.I decided to practice particular meditation and I said I don't care what they will think of me when they see me coz I do it for myself.I had some sheets of paper with me and my aunt got interested as what I was doing and there was the word OOOOMMM and she read that and began to laugh and then told me this is a sect and better watch out coz they brainwash the people's heads and my grandma began talking about this and etc. etc.]Village? Where are you from? But yeah, my aunt is my guardian, and she already tossed out a technique for AP she found because she thinks its witchcraft or something. She's very close minded.
[What they could see with their knowledge was a sect or a religion and everything bad connected with it but I see in this something practical for myself, something that makes me more alive and filled with joy and love and peace.
Calling yourself a gnostic or christian or buddist? does it make you more gnostic for example? You are what you are - you are the Being itself.You are everything and everything is a part of you. What's the use of labeling yourself and set limitations that way?
I wish you a blessful night/day! ]Until you talk to someone who believes in proseletyzing. they have to label themselves. Anyway same to you too.
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I've been into this for a few years, and before that I didn't know much about spiritual stuff. I wasn't looking for a particular religion or something to follow or anything, and just came here to learn techniques for Astral Projection. I found the other stuff had a lot of credibility to it so I kept going with the courses, not thinking of myself as a Gnostic, but just as someone learning from a particular set of courses. There are of course some theoretical things, but you don't have to believe those. Nor do you have to disbelieve them. You can just put them on the back burner and go with what you know and can experience. This has worked for me pretty well overall.
So yeah, don't let the theory confuse. Just think of it as being of an advanced level that you will reach eventually, but right now haven't experienced.
Hope that helps. All the best.
Kevin
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Yes, labelling can't do the work for us, however we need to call things somehow. Then it is good to have the similar terminology to understand each other and avoid confusion.[quote][/quote]Do the work for you? Do you proseletyze?, not that I would think down on you if you did, but most of these new agy religions seem to be against it to the point that they use it in debate to show the faults of the other religion.
[quote author=Kevin J. link=board=21;threadid=4308;start=0#msg25578 date=1177478325]
Hey Jeremiah,
I've been into this for a few years, and before that I didn't know much about spiritual stuff. I wasn't looking for a particular religion or something to follow or anything, and just came here to learn techniques for Astral Projection. I found the other stuff had a lot of credibility to it so I kept going with the courses, not thinking of myself as a Gnostic, but just as someone learning from a particular set of courses. There are of course some theoretical things, but you don't have to believe those. Nor do you have to disbelieve them. You can just put them on the back burner and go with what you know and can experience. This has worked for me pretty well overall.
So yeah, don't let the theory confuse. Just think of it as being of an advanced level that you will reach eventually, but right now haven't experienced.
Hope that helps. All the best.
Kevin
[/quote]Thank you, and I read your article on awareness, very well written. Anyway, I was under the impression that no one has ever experienced anything past the 6th dimenension. I read somewhere that someone supposedly astral projected from the astral plane. So does the theology here come from direct questioning of the guides in the astral plane? I may sound a bit obcessive over the theology, that is because ever since the days when I was still a Christian, I have loved theology. It is a skill of mine when it comes to debate.
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However, those who are interested to learn the methods offered by Gnosticweb, need to understand its terminology...well it is all explained in the courses which everyone can take.
Hope it makes it more clear.
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