psychological fragility
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Fri, 10/03/2008 - 21:23
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originaluhtee
Join Date: 2008-10-03 Forum Posts: 7 |
Hello All, I recently bought Beelzebuub's book on astral travel and have found it intriguing. I'd like to try to astral project, but I'm worried about negative effects on my psychological state. I recently (5 months ago) went through a serious psychological trauma. I'm receiving treatment for this trauma, as well as medicine. What worries me is the psychological effect of running into negative entities on the astral plane. I know that the book offers conjurations, but I'm still concerned. Can anyone offer any additional advice/guidance? Thanks for reading. |
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Join Date: 2008-03-18
Forum Posts: 326
The astral plane is an extraordinary place full of wonder and mystic knowledge. To miss it would be unfortunate. I don't know if negative entities will have an effect on your psychological state, but I would say that the astral plane is worth any amount of vexation to get to. If you are extra worried, there are several precautions you can take to prevent yourself coming into contact with negative entities.
If you decide that the astral plane is not for you at this moment, I do hope you'll come back to it at some point in your future.
Join Date: 2005-01-26
Forum Posts: 1130
What effects the mind often comes as thoughtforms and emotions from the astral plane, ideas from the mental plane, and a type of chaos from the causal plane.
Perhaps being able to project may offer you a better understanding of yourself and how your psyche works.
It's important to remember to interpret impressions form a clear and conscious state though, absoluetly as free from the intellect as possible.
Based on the clinical information you provided I would offer the suggestion that someone in your situation is better off taking up meditation as a prerequisite to astral travel.
You can sign up for Gnosticweb's free meditation course. Don't let the fact that it is free underestimate it's potential for one to acquire gnosis.
Best regards.
Join Date: 2008-10-03
Forum Posts: 7
Hi Fish,
Thanks for your response. I'm interested in these precautions that you spoke about -- is there a place where I can find out more about them?
Thanks Again
Join Date: 2008-10-03
Forum Posts: 7
Hi Apakhana,
Thanks for the response. What if I already meditate regularly? I've been doing Zen practice (mindfulness during the periods where I'm not meditating) for about a year now too.
Join Date: 2008-03-18
Forum Posts: 326
I don't really know much about protection methods. I've heard of a circle of protection thing being mentioned around here.
But don't worry about encountering negative entities so early on. You are unlikely to meet any, unless you go searching for them. To be honest, the process of the split is more troubling than negative beings.
If you can meditate already (which is an excellent start to learn projection) then you might benefit from the Self-Discovery course here as well.
Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2930
Hi Originaluhtee,
I am sorry to hear about your psychological trauma. Hope the things will keep improving, and that's fantastic that you practise meditation.
Yes, Belzebuub's book teaches the methods of precations and the corresponding course here can help to understand better how it all works and replace concerns with firm confidence. (many people in the forums refer to the courses here because they are very effective and teach for free)
Just a few simple tips to mention for now from my limited knowledge and experience: avoid heavy meals before going to bed.
For a nice and pleasant astral experiences it's important to be in related internal state, calm and relaxed, so meditation skills can help you with that. If you feel yourself bad, just taking a walk in mindfullness state can help a lot to find that peace and comfort within.
If you'll meet them consciously in the astral, just walk peacefully or fly away, and often they just don't follow, too lazy perhaps.
When skills of recitations are well developed, it's possible to actually dispel negative entities when they appear and continue an intriguing and possibly life-changing astral explorations without any interferences.
Best wishes,
Join Date: 2003-08-23
Forum Posts: 338
Hi Originaluhtee
From personal experience, if you have experienced a significantly disturbing trauma, then I would suggest you work on that at the moment, with your therapist (assuming you have one) and medically.
Stay away from dabbling with anything spiritual until you are sure you have recovered from the trauma, that you know what you want fully and that you possess the good judgement and independent wisdom needed to decide what is good for you and what isn't.
Recovery from trauma is a difficult and painful process and it is very possible to be derailed by seemingly innocent and helpful things and thrown into a psychological tailspin from which it is hard to recover.
Prayer will never go astray though and can be immensely healing :)
Warm regards
Ahona
Join Date: 2003-12-26
Forum Posts: 231
Hello Originaluhtee,
It's hard to give a clear or even correct answer over the forums about whether meeting negative entities in the astral will affect you adversely or not because we don't know the condition of the trauma that has occurred to you! Do you think your up to it at the moment Orginaluhtee? I guess that decision is up to you, let us know how you feel about it.
I take it that you bought the book When I go to Sleep by Belzebuub? as he explains in the the book about the conjurations in there but also about the circle of protection as well so the combination of both of these tools to protect you when attempting astral travel is a very effective way to protect yourself.
Fear can also be an obstacle when were trying to astral travel as were going into new areas of life that we may not have much experience or knowledge about so sometimes we can think the worst about it and have reservations about trying it.
All the best
Steve
Join Date: 2008-10-03
Forum Posts: 7
Dear All,
Thanks a lot for your informative and supportive responses. I've decided to hold off for now, but I'll be happy to try it when I'm feeling better!
Bye for now
Join Date: 2003-12-26
Forum Posts: 231
o.k
All the best with getting better and lets hope that you recover quickly so you can have a go at astral travelling.
Steve