Hello genun,

we are talking about condemnation, and take all

the time you need for it, because it is really interesting to investigate in this region and his

conditions.

Many is said about eternal condemnation, unfortunally

everything about it is built up is wrong knowledge.

The knowledge of a eternal condemnation has

arisen in the middle age from false apostles.

The reallity of condemnation is that it is real

now.

every negative vibration, how ever its begin

will throw us into a psychic hell, and all

hells that ever  had existed had always pain

within, and its related to the negativ spheres

inside the earth, to our suprise also the spheres

of heaven are inside the earth, and they do not

conntect each other, and they are not to see

with physic eyes.

Through the lower belly we are connected with

this inferior spheres, and that is to say, the

time of punishment there is not for ever,

in the same way we are not reaching the

heavens for all the time right now, located

inside the earth.

each planet has its own hells and heavens.

so why we are going into hell all the times?

its because we have negative vibrations

in us. we carry negative vibrations in us

and they give us that time is running slowly and

more psychic weight while awaken.

there is no punishment for ever, however feels

fear, then its has its own time. fear is

located in the underconsciousness region,

these regions are vibrating to the lower belly

and the lower belly is vibrating to the spheres

of hell inside our punished earth. 

lets have a look to the psychological

aggregate, what is called hate,

and hate is worser then fear in so we are

going more down into our subconsciousness,

if we feal hate.

there are so many names of negative vibration,

and that why gnostic movement started with meditation, first silence meditation, later

in order to find out which the indiviual person

has, to understand this, and to change it into

something what is called heavenly vibrations or

virtues.

no punishment because of negative vibrations

in us are for ever, its only as long we didnt

change it into something better, per example

somebody is on a good way with honesty, what is

a heavenly thing.

This is a short statement, go into the courses

and you will find easily how to save from hell

and all of thems punishments.

gnostic wisdom has become the most intensive

study on earth, and its for all people,

for the instintiv, the emotional and not at

least for the intellectual.

Learn to travel in the astral, learn to have

out of body experiences, learn to be a

upright person in your family, with your friends,

welcome

isn't it when you commited suicide you wil never go to hell nor heaven thus, you will repeat what you do to yourself how you kill your ownself forever? ?

First, eternity is not a function of time. In Christianity, sinners consigned eternally to hell wouldn't be punished for a long time. They would be punished outside of time. Good people who find salvation also live in that same region where clocks never tick. So our ordinary sense of "time" has no relevance.

-Deepak Chopra in Life After Death: The Burden of Proof

In my understanding, "eternal condemnation" isn't really eternal, it has a limit, because all suffering has a limit, after which the person leaves that process clean of past evil. That's the purpose of that condemnation, to purge people of the darkness within them Of course, there is another possibility in life, which is to take up the spiritual work to overcome that evil conscoiusly, then we don't have to suffer in hell.

Take care,
Matija

Hello,

I don't have a grasp on the theories, but it is clear to me that the abyss needs to be distinguished from Hellfire. The Day of Judgement is the day shackles are cast on time. After this day, a new structure of earth and the higher dimensions will be setup, and anyone who has not atoned himself must work to atone himself under the new measures of time setup.

We know from set theory that there are levels of infinity, for example, in ascending order: the set of integers, the set of all subsets of the set of integers (possibly) = the number of real numbers, the set of all subsets of the set of real numbers. From this we can see that the serial rapist who would approach the Day of Recompense without atoning himself would receive "infinite" punishment, but this punishment could still be grades less than what a flagrant black magician might have to endure.

Stephen Hawking wrote in The Mechanics of Doomsday (I haven't read it myself) that there is a mathematical model for the expansion of the universe which predicts that the expansion will slow down and reverse and the universe will collapse. Extrapolation says that after this, there will be a new Big Bang with a more rapid expansion. Many scientists are not willing to accept this and favour a model which says the expansion will continue indefinately.

Hope this has shed light on the problem.

Asim

I should add, the new Big Bang would have an unbounded characteristic to its expansion, clearly distinguishing it from the first.

Hello Genun,

Much more about this is explained in the Gnostic Wisdom course, which can be taken after the other courses are completed. By choosing to feed our lower nature and animal desires again and again, the soul is dragged down by heavy psychological inner states instead of waking up spiritually and freeing itself from nature's wheel of pleasure and pain.

If someone refuses all of life's opportunities to wake up spiritually it eventually brings suffering and terrible tragedy,

All the strength to you,

-Noah

Hi Genun,

From what I understand, "eternal condemnation" is consequence of treating life like it is eternity, refusing to work spiritually on yourself and to help others.

Like it was mentioned, it's not really eternal, it takes as much time as it is necessary for lessons to be learned.

Gnostic Wisdom course gives some explanations about it and course in Dreams and Out-of-Body Experiences teaches how to project to the astral and to find own answers from own experience.

Kind wishes,

´HI, VADIM

In the old days of paradies there was life and  death together - eternity

togehter, the truth/love

many people are remembering this times,

and people are remembering this luck,

and the search god,

I used to think of eternity as an incredibly long long long long time, but hey, that's not it at all. Eternal means out of Time, not an extension.