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Mon, 07/28/2008 - 03:25
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~Rene~
Join Date: 2008-07-28 Forum Posts: 26 |
Hello everyone , I have recently experienced something extremely profound, steming from a crisis time in my life. Although physiatry gives this experience a label, diagnoses of Mania, I am not so sure that is what it was,while it is true I can not deny the symptoms I have trouble believing the label, The day started out like every other day, except that I was feeling out of my body... Colors were brighter, forms of objects were more vivid, food tasted better, and I was extremey happy, my thoughts were one with everyone and everything, like I had a profound love inside me , coupled with a strength, I could not sit still, I was filled with a joy, When I say joy it is more like a power, not an emotion , I was seeing visuals of Christ .... the thing is my mind was crystal clear, my thoughts were sharper and i did not have any dual thinking period.... nothing bothered me I had no fear no anxiety . It was like I had tapped into a higher level of consience..... this lasted for a few days, but then i started crash back into my conceptual mind of duality and experienced paranoia , it is almost like my brain tried to enclose this experiene and this is what caused a crash , then a deep depression for a couple of weeks, I was wondering if anyone had anything to share on this, I am not convinced that this experience is of the mental illness sort , but more a spiritual crisis experience... any input would be helpful..... |
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Join Date: 2004-05-17
Forum Posts: 68
Hi Rene,
I think that what you have experianced could be inspirational to explore deeper into spirituality. This joy you speak of and hightened receptiveness to taste and the like can be achieved continualy if one really works on their awareness and disintegration of the ego.
I personaly have experianced what you speak of on occasions usually after a good meditation. Everything is so calm and clear and I can notice the beuty within everything. However if I dont maintain my practices I find myself suffering again.
I have heard somewhere that sometimes we are given these spiritual experiances almost as a taster of what is possible, so we can then choose whether to look into it further.
I hope this helps,
Kind Regards,
Andrew
Join Date: 2008-07-24
Forum Posts: 33
I experienced a moment where I felt a slight pressure on the back of my tongue and then a dramatic whooshing into my lungs.
I then felt this joy unspeakable. I felt that if I smiled any larger my lips would tear apart. Thi lasted for about a minute but was unforgettable.
Please show me more . . . me
Join Date: 2004-09-08
Forum Posts: 716
Hello Rene,
Sounds like an amazing experience :)
At the beginning we are often given a lot of help by the Divine, as Andrew mentioned, to give us a taste what we can achieve and experience. Maybe it is because they want us to have some ground to start from, should we decide to change ourselves for the better. And we need those experiences because they can give us the incentive to work when we feel this inner resistence coming from our mind or even people around us.
Seems like you saw the difference between being in the consciousness and then what it's like to be with the mind again. This is valuable because you managed to see your psyche from another perspective (without the mind) and this puts you in a good point for change. Because before you change you need to know what it is that you want to change and why.
People and you mind may put thousands different labels to this experience, but the real you would actually know what it is and why you had it.
I don't know if you have taken any of the courses on gnosticweb, but if you're interested to investigate this experience and peace, inner change and self-discovery in general, I think you will get all the tools you need for this on the courses.
best wishes!
Join Date: 2008-07-28
Forum Posts: 26
Hi Andrew
thankyou for your response, this state of being was so profound to me , I can not help but explore it...
I also write from this state of being, I remember taking my writings into my physcologist to see if she could help me understand how I was writing all these poems , without making any conscience choice to do so ... she was of no help unfortunetly , lol
Join Date: 2008-07-28
Forum Posts: 26
Hi Pavlin,
I also write poetry from this state of "without mind" it is like I am possessed by someone or something taking over my body and living in me...... These poems that come through me, are not like a story your read and forget, these pieces can not be forgot -
I really do not know much about Gnosticism, so maybe there are some answers here to my experiences, I have had no luck in Christian churches though, in fact I feel like a freak at church
Join Date: 2005-01-26
Forum Posts: 1129
Hi Rene,
Gnosis is about knowing how to know, and comprehending what that means. It is firsthand, direct, conscious, intimate experience. That's all you need!
Your luck with secular churches seems typical because most of them are only believers, not true knowers.
Your experience you described sounds wonderful, those are the peaceful aware states of consciousness worth working hard for in gnosis, and we can establish a closer connection with our being.
Our consciousness is the true self which experiences something directly, so it is this part of us the true gnostic person aims to evolve and grow strong, and eventually dissolving the identity without having nature do it for us.
Join Date: 2007-10-24
Forum Posts: 696
Hi Rene,
When I was 18, my parents had me see a psychaitrist and it was hard because everyone who does not see a psychaitrist has no questions about whether what they experience is crazy or not.. But once I started going to see one, I started wondering, is this crazy, is that crazy?
No one these days wonders if I am mentally ill or not. (Not that I've heard, at least!) They know I'm an unusual person, but they'll trust me with lots of pretty important responsibilities and feel okay about doing that.
But it was difficult for me when I was a teen and seeing a shrink, both socially and in myself. It wasn't good to have to second-guess every thought and feeling.
It was tough, but it showed me quite well the borderlines between my inner self, which has to have the say on what I experience within myself, and my outer self, which has to conform to expectations of others, including random strangers, even, in some situations.
And poor unfortunate beings that we humans are, we have to balance many a world. And those worlds know nothing of each other, only we do. So it falls to us, very strongly if you're gifted in the spirit, to negotiate on very different terms all we are given to make sense of from various dimensions and perspectives.
I believe at Gnosticweb you can find some help and encouragement to be strong in the best ways and have a chance to make what you want to come true, come true. And to come to feel that if it isn't easy, it is worth all the efforts.
How to make the right efforts at the right time, this gets discussed here, too.
Join Date: 2008-05-19
Forum Posts: 63
Is this to say we have to learn the art of finding balance when these worlds you are talking about crashes upon us :-)
what must one do in a society where one tries to measure another with psychological question to test his sanity, or how much historical events he can remember because it seems to him these things are far more important than gnosis. i'm beginning to believe gnosis is more appreciated or best understood by sentimental people.
Join Date: 2008-05-19
Forum Posts: 63
hi Rene, i experienced almost the same thing from a far away memory, people in my present time try to convince me subtly its madness or im not living my life as i should be and admittedly im almost convinced until today when somebody sat beside me and told me "they say you're this and that..." and then began asking scientific questions etc etc which put me off right at the spot. he was not interested in my person he just wanted to get inside my mind to justify if what he perceived about me was true or not and something in me protested "this is not the way to know me!" and suddenly the things that haunted me before came back again, things that cannot be explained to people with scientific minds but is best understood by artists, mystics, and seekers alike........ whoelse can comprehend the spasm of madness a human soul goes through or the sensation of joy when its elevated to greater heights? these experiences are purely personal and purely yours. you can share them, others can draw inspiration from them but never will have the right to pass judgement on them. they are yours.
cheer up Rene, nothing is wrong with you. you are just having some "moments" :-)
ferhonen
Join Date: 2007-10-24
Forum Posts: 696
I thank you for your perceptive posts, ferhonen.