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marleenr
Join Date: 2008-07-26 Forum Posts: 4 |
Im going to try to explain the best I can of my experience.All comments and thoughts are welcomed. This was about 2yrs ago,I was having trouble sleeping for weeks.Could not get my brain to fall asleep so the rest of me can sleep, so It kept me up alot. I was told to try meditation as it will help me relax and possibly solve the sleep problem. So after what I thought was 30min of meditating and staring at a lit candle, I felt exhausted and weak. I layed down with out even second guessing myself. Now all of a sudden Im back in time, I see my mother my aunt(s) and my grandma. Now I know I went way back because my mom was so young looking and my grandma had brown hair lol. I was like frozen in time, I could not figure out how to move, but I was floating.Decided to stick around and listen to the conversation and take in everything around me. My family were speaking in their native tongue (Polish) I was able to comprehend ever single word. It seems they were fixing appetizers and side dishes for my baptismal celebration. A argument occured between my grandma and my aunt (<-married into our family and her family was into black magic) Was the only one that noticed me standing there, I believe I was invible because everyone Except for that aunt pass by me or look straight at me but didnt acknowledge me being there. Now the argument became extremely heated and the bad aunt decided to leave. She walk towards me with evil looking eyes and a smurk. And I could not move or get out of her way. She walked straight through me and I woke up with a strange feeling in my chest. Ive also have issues now, when trying to go to sleep or do an O.B.E I hear a woman singing a lullabye in Polish and I occasionally hear an argument of some sort. Its like one peron by one ear and the other person at the other. Often I could hear it very well and sometimes its very quite as if they are miles apart or whispering.
Any info or comment, Im baffled.
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Join Date: 2005-01-26
Forum Posts: 1036
If this was an event you experienced in the past, it sounds like you've regressed into evoking the archeo-psychic memories of an event that formed a speciffic impression on you at that time, impressions which have been buried somewhere in that specific part of the mind.
We are also shown things in our dreams to learn spiritual lessons. It's been my experience that the Divine uses our own existing archetypes to teach us spiritual lessons through the universal language of those symbols.
So we each recieve teachings unique to our own individual experiences. Our mind uses it's own stored impressions as a resource to draw from, intended for showing us a certain lesson.
You are the only one that can interpret the lesson. This requires the use of the consciousness because it operates independently of the mind. This awareness must be utilized to arrive at a realization regarding what those symbols are saying or trying to show you.
Keep your lessons to yourself though, they are intended for you and only add confusion when forming an impression on another person's mind because each other's archetypes can conflict with one another.
A common phenomena associated with OBE's includes hearing voices (egos?) and music. I hear music at times also, when attempting the practice. You are probably close then (Keep going! )
Either that or you just ate too much sausage : )
Join Date: 2004-04-07
Forum Posts: 47
Hi Marleenr,
I can only suggest that I have heard voices when going to sleep, sounding quite real as if they were in my room and close to my ear. It was quite frightening when it first happened. Perhaps we are close to sleep when we hear them as it is said that our subconcious is projected around us when are asleep, so our thoughts and feelings are real - as in dreams.
Nothing to worry over though, if you are trying to project just try your best not to be distracted and stay with what you are concentrated upon.
All the best. :)
Join Date: 2008-07-26
Forum Posts: 4
So, what your saying is I did go back in time? My next question is how do you O.B.E to certain areas, Or is it out of your control? Is it possible to control where and time frame of an O.B.E. Ive had numerous experiences after that, but still some what in that paralized state where I'm force to stay in a certain area and not able to investigate. As if I have to be there to experience or witness something that will soon occur, in that location. Im trying to find more info about it and this site was great to locate. Im just in that confused state, where Im trying to fiqure out is it possible to be able to do the things Im experiencing. Another odd thing is, If I touch someone I am able to feel a pain..or ache that matches the person affected. After 3 weird experiences one day at a family reunion. Just walking around and greating and getting the general hugs. 1st one I hugged immediatly pain in my jaw radiating to my ear and it stayed for about a min once we let go. I immediately said, "this is weird my tooth hurts,its my right side it radiating to my ear!" The other person openly admitted to the same pain,same side and said she was leaving early due to a outpatient surgery for a impact wisdom tooth. It continued 2 more times like that through out my day.<-other weird experience.
So is it possible to have a possible E.S.P experience or premonition and confuse it with let say O.B.E. <-Meaning you have a certain dream and later the event occur! What would that be? Dont know if i will find all my answers here,but hoping someone else has these issus so they could lead me in the right direction.
Again I appreciate all responses, and take you to the 2 that inlightened me earlier. :)
Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2906
Hi Marleenr,
Sounds like you're having some interesting experiences!
From what I understand, the astral plane (the 5th dimension) is above the time (the 4th dimension), the astral is eternal now. However, in the astral it's still possible to see things from the past by accessing so-called Akashic records, as well as like Apakhana mentioned, Divine Beings can place for us a things from the past in the astral as a symbols to work with for our individual spiritual learning.
As we start to OBE consciously, at that stage our level of control is quite low, and the most important things to care about is training consciousness, learning how to improve practices and keep up enthusiasm and interest in giving 100%... treating astral travel as an important part of life and it is, isn't it.
The course in Dreams and OBEs can help a lot to learn more about it.
That ability to feel pain in others likely relates to the senses of astral body and spiritual faculties...this stuff is real, you can have some gained capacities or maybe you have learned to activate them somehow without realizing it...
Just one thing to add up -all what you've described seems very normal to me. If you'll keep investigating, you can learn better how to deal with it and find much more, maybe not necessarily making sense..this is what mind wants.
Good luck!
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Join Date: 2008-08-04
Forum Posts: 7
well im new to this...well i haven't ever tried it but i am wanting to learn how. plus if anyone here can tell me, i would like to learn the easiest/best way to try AP
Join Date: 2007-10-24
Forum Posts: 618
It sounds like you might have some gifts for maybe being a healer, and / or becoming a person who has the ability to undertake deeper and deeper understandings of the universe.
You should always treat yourself with respect and search out the meanings in your own heart of these significant experiences, Marleen.
I wouldn't be surprised if you could respond in the present to experiences of the different dimensions. You could send healing energy to yourself, to the part that was walked through by your aunt, or to the wicked aunt herself, if you felt up for that, or to the people whose pains you were empathic with.
Join Date: 2007-10-24
Forum Posts: 618
Oh Surius,
There's an 8- week course by trained practitioners, so sign up for that right away.
In the meantime, from an untrained practitioner, you could (I say) start by taking as much notice as possible of the exact exact moment when you are passing over from being very very very drowsy to being a passenger upon the boat whose last rope has just been cast off the wharf of this world, the boat of dreams.
It is a true adventure, and though not necessarily easy, to not expect surprises on the road of consciousness would be far too pessimistic.
Good luck, best wishes, and keep us posted!
Join Date: 2008-08-04
Forum Posts: 7
well it seems that it won't work i have been trying all sorts of things that i have read on this site and none of them are working.>_<
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Join Date: 2004-08-08
Forum Posts: 209
Hi Surius,
It can take a long time at first to learn to astral project. I'm not sure how long you've been trying for, but it's important to keep at it, and try not to get frustrated if it feels like nothing is happening.
Have you tried concentrating on your heart as you go to sleep? A lot of people have success with that technique early on...so you would lie down, make sure to relax all the muscles in your body VERY thoroughly--until you almost can't feel your body, or it feels like you are incredibly heavy or light (maybe both). Then once you're completely relaxed, concentrate your mind on feeling your heartbeats, if you want you can visualize the heart as well. No matter what happens next, just keep focused on the heart, and if any thoughts come up, or you feel different sensations, go back to concentrating on your heart.
Every time you try this exercise, you are building up a skill, adding to your experience because it's a learning process to know how to astral project. So even if you don't project at first, try again and again and eventually you will.
Kind regards,
Dara
Join Date: 2007-10-24
Forum Posts: 618
Have you had any astral experiences trying any techniques, wherever the techniques are from?