Regarding sexual alchemySubscribe |
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Tue, 07/15/2008 - 01:36
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Ingmar Vijgdonk
Join Date: 2006-11-14 Forum Posts: 14 |
I have a few questions about sexual alchemy. Can sexual alchemy be done by masturbating without orgasm or does it require 2 people? Can sexual alchemy be done with a spirit guide or even the HGA? I read somewhere that sexual alchemy can build an immortal astral (golden??) body, could it also be used to make the lunar body stronger? (By lunar body I mean the ghost body that still has my identity intact, when I project) |
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Join Date: 2008-03-18
Forum Posts: 190
In my limited understanding of it, it does require two people.
Join Date: 2008-07-02
Forum Posts: 61
Hello Ingmar Vijgdonk
You can transmute your sexual energie daily
by using the christian-egypian pranayama,
(yellow book by samael aun weor)
and between these exersices with simple
long very slow breath-ins and very fast breath-
outs by wanting to get the energie from
the sexual instrument to the brain.
sexual transmutation without the mystic death
(killing the ego) is dangerous because so
we strenghten the ego, and we hurt others
and ourselve.
Three fundamental points we find
in the gnostic work: - Transmutation
of the sexual Energie.
- Mystic death: transforming the negative
vibrations in us by understanding of any
ego and reduce them to cosmical dust.
- helping others,
Someone have to free the golden emrio,
and the solar bodies to become step by step authentic travelers
in the astral,
If we are alone we transmute alone, if we are
in a couple we will transmute our own
sexual energie, too.
The Perfect Couple by Samael Aun Weor informing
book for us.
I am not in trust in a ritual what is by masturbating
and transmuting, and it seems to be to refresh
a old thought, its better to try to overcome this,
thanks for the chance to open this.
Join Date: 2004-10-15
Forum Posts: 174
This is my understanding.
The sexual Alchemy (as taught on the Gnostic Wisdom course) requires two people that are in a married and stable relationship. As with any type of sexual relationship, it's better to be committed (married) to your partner so there is trust and in case something unwanted like pregnancy occurs (so that the two are responsible for that together).
It can't be done by any form of masturbation because it requires two poles (negative and positive AKA male and female) for the "creation" of internal spiritual bodies to occur (more on the course)
The practice itself is guided by an individuals own divine mother because you can ask her to prevent pregnancy, eliminate this or that psychological ego like fear, anger, lust, etc.
Again, based on course information, you can create internal bodies although in that case it would be a Solar Astral body since, as you stated, we already have a lunar phantom astral body when we astral travel. The Solar would replace the Lunar and would be more "solid" than the lunar as well as other benefits like feeling higher emotions. The only thing that would strengthen is the psychological egos (if you do the practice incorrectly) as was mentioned.
This is a very in-depth topic and a majority of your questions are answered on the Gnostic Wisdom course so I highly suggest taking that course. Ultimately, most of these type of questions can be answered by practice and you are given that technique on the course provided you meet the requirements to practice it.
Join Date: 2008-03-18
Forum Posts: 190
I'm a bit confused about the requirement to not orgasm. A build-up like that without a release can lead to a painful medical problem for the male, at least.
Join Date: 2005-02-16
Forum Posts: 620
Hello everyone,
This practice of alchemy has a lot of information involved most of which involving sensitive issues due to the context of what is involved.
Due to this it is probably best discussed in the relevant Gnostic Wisdom course area where the information can be given correctly and in depth by the teachers there.
Best regards,
Adam.
Join Date: 2006-03-26
Forum Posts: 63
Hi Fish,
As Adam has mentioned, the topic is obviously very sensitive, and is best dealt with in detail in the Gnostic Wisdom course.
However, just to help put your mind at rest, the practice itself uses a technique to "transmute" the sexual energy, so that it doesn't cause the problems that you would usually expect in those circumstances. There are many people who have been practising Alchemy for many many years, and have not suffered any of those sorts of issues, so rest assured it's safe to practice from a physical perspective!
Hope this helps :-)
Regards,
Vicki
Join Date: 2005-03-16
Forum Posts: 186
As other have said, alchemy must be done by 2 people. The Ham Sah practice can help transmute excess energy, but does not create like the alchemy. I believe it's taught in the gnostic wisdom course.
Alchemy must be done in the phyical body. As has been mentioned, it's important that the couple be married, but this must be a spiritual marriage, not a wedding ring. This means that the couple needs to be willing to work things out together instead of breaking up when the going gets tough.
The lunar body is not a real body, but is what we imagine ourselves to look like. It is our projected self-image, which is why we can change the way it looks simply by imagining it. The solar bodies are different and are not a product of the whims of the subconscious.
-Julian
Join Date: 2007-11-02
Forum Posts: 849
As Adam has mentioned, the topic is obviously very sensitive, and is best dealt with in detail in the Gnostic Wisdom course.
When questions were asked in gnostic wisdom course, we have been put off until the teacher's course. So, you'll have to wait even longer on that one.
Dusty
Join Date: 2005-02-16
Forum Posts: 620
I wasn't aware of that thanks Dusty.
However, those who are eligible to do the Gnostic Wisdom course have the ability to purchase the book "Secret Knowledge, Hidden Wisdom"by Belzebuub which outlines all the information in detail.
I hope that clears it up,
Adam
Join Date: 2008-07-02
Forum Posts: 61
A very good book for a orientation here is
the perfect couple by Samael Aun Weor
When the sun raise,