Regarding sexual alchemy

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Tue, 07/15/2008 - 01:36
Ingmar Vijgdonk

Join Date: 2006-11-14
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I have a few questions about sexual alchemy.

Can sexual alchemy be done by masturbating without orgasm or does it require 2 people?

Can sexual alchemy be done with a spirit guide or even the HGA?

I read somewhere that sexual alchemy can build an immortal astral (golden??) body, could it also be used to make the lunar body stronger? (By lunar body I mean the ghost body that still has my identity intact, when I project)

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Tue, 07/15/2008 - 02:27
><FISH'>

Join Date: 2008-03-18
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In my limited understanding of it, it does require two people.

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Tue, 07/15/2008 - 05:06
Ifitistrue

Join Date: 2008-07-02
Forum Posts: 61

Hello Ingmar Vijgdonk 

You can transmute your sexual energie daily

by using the christian-egypian pranayama,

(yellow book by samael aun weor)

and between these exersices with simple

long very slow breath-ins and very fast breath-

outs by wanting to get the energie from

the sexual instrument to the brain.

sexual transmutation without the mystic death

(killing the ego) is dangerous because so

we strenghten the ego, and we hurt others

and ourselve.

Three fundamental points we find

in the gnostic work: - Transmutation

of the sexual Energie.

- Mystic death: transforming the negative

vibrations in us by understanding of any

ego and reduce them to cosmical dust.

- helping others,

Someone have to free the golden emrio,

and the solar bodies to become step by step authentic travelers

in the astral,

If we are alone we transmute alone, if we are

in a couple we will transmute our own

sexual energie, too.

The Perfect Couple by Samael Aun Weor informing

book for us.

I am not in trust in a ritual what is by masturbating

and transmuting, and it seems to be to refresh

a old thought, its better to try to overcome this,

thanks for the chance to open this. 

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Tue, 07/15/2008 - 06:47
Gerry

Join Date: 2004-10-15
Forum Posts: 174

This is my understanding.

The sexual Alchemy (as taught on the Gnostic Wisdom course) requires two people that are in a married and stable relationship. As with any type of sexual relationship, it's better to be committed (married) to your partner so there is trust and in case something unwanted like pregnancy occurs (so that the two are responsible for that together).

It can't be done by any form of masturbation because it requires two poles (negative and positive AKA male and female) for the "creation" of internal spiritual bodies to occur (more on the course)

The practice itself is guided by an individuals own divine mother because you can ask her to prevent pregnancy, eliminate this or that psychological ego like fear, anger, lust, etc.

Again, based on course information, you can create internal bodies although in that case it would be a Solar Astral body since, as you stated, we already have a lunar phantom astral body when we astral travel. The Solar would replace the Lunar and would be more "solid" than the lunar as well as other benefits like feeling higher emotions. The only thing that would strengthen is the psychological egos (if you do the practice incorrectly) as was mentioned.

This is a very in-depth topic and a majority of your questions are answered on the Gnostic Wisdom course so I highly suggest taking that course. Ultimately, most of these type of questions can be answered by practice and you are given that technique on the course provided you meet the requirements to practice it.

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Tue, 07/15/2008 - 09:40
><FISH'>

Join Date: 2008-03-18
Forum Posts: 190

I'm a bit confused about the requirement to not orgasm. A build-up like that without a release can lead to a painful medical problem for the male, at least.

#5
Tue, 07/15/2008 - 12:11
Adam Enilder

Join Date: 2005-02-16
Forum Posts: 620

Hello everyone,

This practice of alchemy has a lot of information involved most of which involving sensitive issues due to the context of what is involved.

Due to this it is probably best discussed in the relevant Gnostic Wisdom course area where the information can be given correctly and in depth by the teachers there.

Best regards,
Adam.

#6
Tue, 07/15/2008 - 13:40
Vicki

Join Date: 2006-03-26
Forum Posts: 63

Hi Fish,

As Adam has mentioned, the topic is obviously very sensitive, and is best dealt with in detail in the Gnostic Wisdom course.

However, just to help put your mind at rest, the practice itself uses a technique to "transmute" the sexual energy, so that it doesn't cause the problems that you would usually expect in those circumstances. There are many people who have been practising Alchemy for many many years, and have not suffered any of those sorts of issues, so rest assured it's safe to practice from a physical perspective!

Hope this helps :-)

Regards,
Vicki

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Sun, 07/20/2008 - 07:01
Julian Kingman

Join Date: 2005-03-16
Forum Posts: 186

As other have said, alchemy must be done by 2 people. The Ham Sah practice can help transmute excess energy, but does not create like the alchemy. I believe it's taught in the gnostic wisdom course.

Alchemy must be done in the phyical body. As has been mentioned, it's important that the couple be married, but this must be a spiritual marriage, not a wedding ring. This means that the couple needs to be willing to work things out together instead of breaking up when the going gets tough.

The lunar body is not a real body, but is what we imagine ourselves to look like. It is our projected self-image, which is why we can change the way it looks simply by imagining it. The solar bodies are different and are not a product of the whims of the subconscious.
-Julian

#8
Tue, 07/22/2008 - 10:41
Dusty

Join Date: 2007-11-02
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As Adam has mentioned, the topic is obviously very sensitive, and is best dealt with in detail in the Gnostic Wisdom course.

When questions were asked in gnostic wisdom course, we have been put off until the teacher's course. So, you'll have to wait even longer on that one.

Dusty

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Tue, 07/22/2008 - 14:59
Adam Enilder

Join Date: 2005-02-16
Forum Posts: 620

I wasn't aware of that thanks Dusty.

However, those who are eligible to do the Gnostic Wisdom course have the ability to purchase the book "Secret Knowledge, Hidden Wisdom"by Belzebuub which outlines all the information in detail.

I hope that clears it up,
Adam

#10
Tue, 07/22/2008 - 22:25
Ifitistrue

Join Date: 2008-07-02
Forum Posts: 61

A very good book for a orientation here is

the perfect couple by Samael Aun Weor 

 

When the sun raise,