How to find answers for our big questions?
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Thu, 07/10/2008 - 15:49
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Mauricio
Join Date: 2005-05-29 Forum Posts: 213 |
Hi there, I'd like to share with a question a friend came up with the other day while we were having a conversation about the process of evolution, devolution and the direct revolutionary path to enlightment in general. We were both unable to find a real answer for the question perhaps for a lack of experience on the wide perspective of Life, being it quite a wide open question within an intelectual conversation. We were talking about this subjects and then what he said was that the more we go further talking about this, there will always be a question that we can't find an answer for, and if we answer that question, then another one will come and so forth, and there will always be a question that we are unable to answer. There is sense in this statement, and I asked him to give me an example. He said: ' ' for example, "Why does this process of evolution, devolution, and so forth, the spiritual work, the path to enlightment, together with all the dimensions of existence, why does all of this exist?" ' ' Basically he was asking 'why everything we can think of exists', and why everything that is said to exist, exists. I was a bit surprised on this unusual question, even though I guess many had come to question it at least once in their life. Trying to use common sense, I said that perhaps everything exist because we were given the opportunity to be and to live, and to know that we do so, to develop through this whole Life. It's like a gift, to be able to Be, to exist, and to see that we 'are' in this moment. And if we can even develop that with practice, that's really amazing in my opinion. There's no direct way to answer this kind of questions by just talking and discussing it I guess. He was not satisfied with how the conversation ended and neither was I because we didn't come to any real conclusion. I think that this can be helpful sometimes. In a mundane level we could have this sort of conversations here and now but there is nothing new or good taken from it if we just have conversations about this kind of questions and don't put any action into really finding out the ultimate purpose of Life. It's better to consider that maybe we can actually find the answers for all of our questions if we just do something for it, to gain experience and keep doing it until we find answers. I'd like to see if anyone has any comments to share on that question, or on the whole matter of how to approach questions difficult to answer for us, and about the statement that my friend shared with me, saying that we will always see a question ahead that we can't answer. thanks, Mauricio |
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Join Date: 2005-01-26
Forum Posts: 1036
Hi Mauricio!
The first question to ask should be "What am I going to do with any answer I receive?"
Like you said, putting the answer into action in order to realize truth can be the only thing to really reach a satisfactory conclusion.
If we don't put an answer into practice, we will always see a question ahead that we can't answer. We become lost in the labyrinth of the mind with all the new questions and never reach a way out of it.
After applying gnosis for a time, I've found that one learns that most questions don't need to be asked anyway.
Good topic! You're lucky you have friends that even think about that stuff. I do not.
Join Date: 2005-02-16
Forum Posts: 667
Hello Mauricio,
Great to see you and great topic.
I think it is a quite pertinent the aspect you mentioned of how such philosophical discussions can maybe stifle an individuals investigation into finding out.
However, from another point of view it can also help to give it a big boost. I find for myself such discussions had between myself and other gnostic teachers and students have led to massive strength to both my yearning and strength. This usually leads me to putting in huge efforts and getting great insights.
I think everyone may be different though and it is up to each of us to find what works for us. Though generally I have seen amongst most who practices Gnosticism an honest inquiry, a deep seeking, a curiosity that is fueled by all things beautiful and divine. Giving that a big stir by opening that bag of how and whys can I think really drive people to seek and to know.
From my experience questioning can be an aspect of mental inquiry which in any case won't get anywhere significant, at least not on spiritual terms. However, answering such questions really comes down to knowledge which is a product of experience. So the more knowledge and answers we have the more experience we have, until we are in an endless experience where questioning is pointless as everything is immediately known.
So from my view I don't think that there is an endless amounts of questions, just a limited point of which questioning then doesn't become necessary.
Either way, I am looking forward to finding out. :-)
Great to hear from you Mauricio,
Strength and Peace mate,
Adam.
Join Date: 2003-09-22
Forum Posts: 62
Hey Mauricio, :-)
I think your friend is right, When it comes to looking for answers for the bigger questions its VERY easy to get way to theoretical and intellectual run around in circles and lose the plot.
Half of these concepts i dont think we are capable of comprehending until a higher degree of consciousness is attained. The bigger questions would possibly be teachings from the higher dimensions anyway. Nothing that we can really speculate on from here, but perhaps through meditation gain insight to bigger questions. This way I find is too profound for words to describe though.
So overall i think there is a pretty good reason why they are difficult to answer (assuming we are all at the same level) - the state we are at now will not allow us to comprehend YET...but we shall see. :-)
I think it all exists so that love can exist, and grow to be experienced. The most profound force in the universe.
Hope that may have helped.. :-)
Chris
Join Date: 2005-05-29
Forum Posts: 213
Hi Apakhana
thanks for reply
Yeah, what we 'do' in any case seems to define it. It's okay to question I think, not necesarilly in words or conversations, but WHAT we do and HOW we do is what would define our opportunity to find answers.
That's a good point, "What am I going to do with any answer I receive?" Talking about any type of question, I guess the answers that we find with experience are the biggest, and those are the ones that seem to have the biggest impact on the person, that we need to be prepared.
The mind by itself is useless on uncovering mysteries, I guess that's why true conclusions from conversating or thinking about it are impossible. Nevertheless sharing ideas, questions, can be a constructive practice, even to know ourselves, to question the ideas that we have and the questions that we have, and what we do from all I guess is the most important part.
Join Date: 2005-05-29
Forum Posts: 213
Hi Adam,
Good to see you too :-)
Sometimes people like to have 'interesting' conversations, but it sometimes looks like that's just what they were looking for. It's not that the conversation might block investigation, I guess, but instead, I could just feel like having an interesting conversation, get some ideas, and that's it.
Anyway we can be looking for something greater than just that. I'm sure that what you say about group strenght is great. How being in a group like that can help when everyone is looking for great goals. Am I sure? Personally looking forward to verify it! :-)
I'm speechless about the last thing you mentioned about endless experience. Looking forward to find out too.
thanks, and much strenght to you too.
Join Date: 2005-05-29
Forum Posts: 213
Hi Chris,
Yeah I agree that it could be due to the state and in general the lack of experience on a higher level. As you say, it's better to go for the experience and to develop consciousness than to just speculate. Anyway, it is the consciousness that can understand. The mind seems to only use logic for understanding, and that is a huge limit.
thanks for the comments guys. It helps a lot.
Let us all put the efforts to gain understanding.
Mauricio
Join Date: 2005-12-01
Forum Posts: 42
A friend, who asks difficult questions, is very valuable for one’s development. When looking for solutions we activate consciousness. We might get the understanding, but giving the answer may be so difficult, even impossible. Understanding that comes from consciousness is more dimensional than the physical mind. Sharing it can be useless when the respondent’s mind is not open enough.
This is the beauty of the third key – by teaching others we get questions we would never thought of. They open new ways we can look at, new horizons. By investigating and meditating on them we receive understanding and learn to use consciousness.
Join Date: 2003-08-20
Forum Posts: 127
Hi Everyone
Thanks for your insights, its great to read your approach to the point that Mauricio has brought up.
A very big stumbling block I find is thinking or feeling that I have or should have an answer to such questions. It can be a more wonderful experience to take on the question and search for the answer through the inner work and out of body experiences.
Another good point that comes from Mauricio's post, is questioning 'why'. I have found that asking why to be a powerful question and it can really help to go deeper into self discovery, uncovering much more about ourselves, profoundly. For example why I do have these feelings or thoughts, why this place, why these people, why this situation, and so on. Both Master Samael (Rev.Psychology or The Great Rebellion) and Master Judas (The Flight of the Feathered Serpent) talk about questioning why and it's what triggered my asking too.
Layla