Ahoy!

I used to suffer from a depression for years (with various severity) and it completely altered the way I perceived life. I saw myself as full of unwanted and overwhelming negativity, nothing seemed to be worth pursuing, basically the world around seemed to be dark and meaningless. Although I was not afraid of death itself and I had thoughts of committing a suicide, but it was always clear to me that doing so would be an extremely selfish act badly hurting my family and people around me, even though my relations with family and friends at that time were far from perfect. Luckily somehow, gradually I got out of this terrible state of mind.

I think it does not matter whether you are poor or have a prosperous life, depression may hit when one does not have a goal and every day becomes just a boring routine of sustaining life, without any significant purpose.

Now, when I look back, I am quite sure that I fed the negative states of mind for a quite long period of time (with a way of thinking, listening to ‘dark’ music etc) so they gradually grew to enormous size leading to a severe depression. I think it is really terrible state to be in.

From a spiritual point of view, I do not know for sure whether we do reincarnate or have just one go, or if just simply cease to exist after death. Whatever the case, I believe that committing a suicide definitely does not help to make this world a better place.

"An optimist is a person who sees a green light everywhere, while the pessimist sees only the red stoplight... The truly wise person is coluorblind." (Albert Schweitzer)

What keeps me going is goals. (Mahummad Ali)

May the Force be with you.

Anyone suffering anything, suffers so that they wake up to what is going on. This isn't something to believe, it's something to realize through experience.

Depression is caused by coveting happiness.

A slothful mind/manas will not want to make this realization and all sorts of klippothic (demonic) influences then have their way with the person's psyche, which tell them they can cheat life by way of a false doorway out.

I personally could never grasp why anyone would actually do it except insanity as a reason. I know people that have attempted suicide and it was never their intent to actually die, it was a call for attention.

The psychological identity always desires, it wants, it clamors for attention - good or bad.

Definately a low-level vibration, perhaps the worst. Asmodeus wins when we are oblivious to our being or any true spiritual quality.

Hi Andrei,

Suicide itself is not a solulion.We human being are just repeating our past life that is what we have been doing in karma and everyone are not able to understand this but it's true.

SHABBEER

Thanks for starting this topic Andrei.

(Apakhana) "I personally could never grasp why anyone would actually do it except insanity as a reason."

Firstly let me say that I have observed real insanity in myself: times when superstitions were felt to be true. I have at times had the following sort of thought: "It would be nice if I could quit/exit life at this point." The main thing that makes me come to thinking this thought is a feeling of it being extremely hard for me to continue life, repeating my best efforts/works. Luck/good coincidences (which I constue as help from the Divine) plays the major role in my best works. There is worry about how I could do such works without such luck. Having this sort of thought and following through with it in a certain manner, is actually the major folly of the main antagonist in the dark mythology (see the "fear beyond logic" topic).

Thanks for the quote about light and color Suave. I think it's time I looked into altering my rooms lighting (options).

Asim

Hi all

I do not believe in suicide. I think you have to keep going on no matter what. I used to think people who committed suicide would suffer spiritually. I still do but only up to a point. Perhaps there is some leniency for people who have a mental illness, a tragedy, or bankruptcy etc.

Sally

I don't think people who commit suicide are trying to 'cheat' life, nor are they selfish, crazy or attention-seekers. From what I've seen in myself and in other people, thoughts about wishing our lives would end and so on come about when we are in the deepest pits of depression. Once we've seen the inside of those, I think we can see more clearly why people would go to such extreme measures... I have known people who have committed suicide and though none of them told me their feelings directly, I can relate to the feelings of seeing no way out, seeing no value in our lives, seeing no love in our relationships with other people. It is deeply tragic that anyone should feel that way, but thankfully those thoughts and feelings can be dealt with.

Ahoy!

Elisabeth has a good point.

I believe that going through a depression or being close to ones who suffer from it may help us to gain a better understanding of our psyche. When the circumstances are favourable for feeling negative about life in general and daily events repetitively bring you down, due to the hidden egos, anyone could develop a severe depression and possibly be considering a suicide. But once you go through it and fight depression actively you may gain knowledge of some nasty defects otherwise invisible in regular happy life. I am not saying that one should purposely develop a depression (if that is possible at all), but who knows, maybe all of us must face it at same stage (possibly in one of our past/future lives) and it is up to us to make a use of it and learn from it.

I sincerely believe that we should never condemn or judge anyone who as a result of lost inner battle takes own life, because that particular human being needed to be helped out but there was nobody around who could see and understand that person’s inner suffering and lend a helpful hand in these difficult times.

May the Force be always with you.

Hi Andrei,

I think that there can be many reasons for that horrible psychological state, causing all this pain and suffering, where suicide can look like a way out.

Some create something for many years and then it just collapses, some lose their loved ones, some suffer for a long time, try many things and nothing seems to work...some experience all of it and much more in the same package, all at once...

I really agree with what has been said that by observing ourselves during depression and stress we can better understand others in the same situation, and about need to help.
Hopefully, with spreading of this information and practical tools about possibility to live out-of-body, perceiving life as psychological gymnasium for inner growth, eliminating psychological defects, etc., at least some people would be able to learn enough from it to act differently in extremely difficult and painful situations, and fortunately, learn how not to create at least some of them.

My mother committed suicide as a spur of the moment reaction to finding out she had full blown AIDS (one of the first to contract it in early eighties). She was neither depressed or weak or that way inclined. I fully agree we should never judge or even try to look for "rational" reasons. Things happen and not always with "good cause".

Best wishes
Jackie

Our vibrational existence is an EXPERIENCE or a school for progress so, if someone chooses to cut that experience short, they won't progress in to the higher vibrational states in the aether thus they have short circuited that training ground. Many speak of not wanting to come back to this plane but at some point they will so they can progress further. So the more we realise now the better, all the better in a way you'd pass your exams more successfully at school the more studying you did.

Arthur Conan Doyle.... " death is only the transition between two worlds"