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I feel sure that the few physicists and other aspects of science there are in this world, are the ones who are helping to bring forth the existance of aether, and are braking the chains that there is no etheric world. This site dedicates to teaching spirituality but it should do more to explain about the etheric universe and it's properties. People must understand that it's science that makes the great breakthroughs in helping people to understand more than just the teachings of Christ. He only touched the tip of the iceberg to a greater world many folds vaster than ours.
Sir Oliver Lodge, Sir William Crookes, Arthur Findlay, Michael Roll, Ron Pearson and many more have helped brake the chains of silence in the spirit world. Not only do spiritual teachers but these great people deserve a chance of recognition for there work. These people can explain why the universe has a hidden realms and why we we cannot see the etheric world. Not only that but why people are vibrating with situations which is basically meaning that everthing down to the subatomic level and below is in motion (vibration) without we'd all cease to be.
Gnosticweb is a great site but too much is answered in a biblical approach rather than that of a clear, easy to follow set of principles discovered by scientists. A prime example is we all talk about the astral planes and the lowest levels of these planes on this site but we never back it up by saying " the reason these people are the lowest levels is because they are on the lowest vibrational rate, as you are on material plane when you might angry". I feel religion has damaged and twisted so much over centuries that which is real and existing right in the aether that has destroyed the very chance of convincing anyone of a higher plane of existance. One day...soon ....such a science with truth and spirit will be fused to give the ultimate knowledge and maybe we will have the very best of both worlds :)
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Join Date: 2007-10-24
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All right, Andrei! A very interesting post - we do live in an amazing era where things are starting to open up in a new and exciting way and nobody knows how far we can get with it.
Gnosticweb is a great site but I think its potential is even greater. It'll evolve, like the living do.
One other scientist who's very aware spiritually is Rupert Sheldrake. He's written some fine books.
Now I head off to check out your list of Sir Oliver Lodge, Sir William Crookes, Arthur Findlay, Michael Roll, Ron Pearson. I confess to not having heard of a single one of them. Sir Oliver is first!
- Scot
Join Date: 2003-12-29
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Hi Andrei,
It really would be good for the world to understand the higher dimensions (which includes the etheric, astral, etc.) and the greater picture in life, but at least at present, that's not the case for the vast majority of the world.
There are a lot of reasons for this, a few that stand out the most are that most people really aren't open to these hidden realms - they have their own points-of-view (religious, atheist, etc.) and that's that.
Another is that we can sometimes put too much faith in conventional science - the sort of attitude that If conventional science can't explain it then it doesn't exist. But it's really because we lack the correct tool, namely personal experience, that we cannot explain a lot of things. Belzebuub talks about that in his videos on death here: http://www.belzebuub.com/theprocessofdeath. The one "Will science ever explain death?".
But even for those who are open to these possibilities, it's not enough to read a book about them or believe in them. In order to really understand, we need to make this an inner science - one based upon personal experience.
I'm not sure what courses you've taken here, but I've found all the courses to take this approach quite strongly: that we need to explore and experience for ourselves. The courses may not give long textbook explanations of all the ins and outs of the astral but they give the tools so that those who are really trying can see and explore themselves.
Only difficulty is that we gotta work pretty hard :)
Being confined to the lower realms has a lot to do with our inner psychological makeup and this is covered more in the Self-Discovery and Gnostic Wisdom courses.
I sure hope one day science will know the truth, but if that is to ever happen, as a world, I feel, we need to start experiencing instead of theorizing or measuring.
Thanks for your comments.
Take care,
Mike
Join Date: 2005-01-26
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Hi Andrei, good post. The people you mention, they are physicicts?
"...I feel religion has damaged and twisted so much over centuries ..."
- Your feeling is correct. Religion is not defined correctly anymore to begin with. Along with politics, the two have made the world an insane place to exist in.
Like George Carlin said, they are all dreamers, and most people beleive them because you have to be asleep to believe their lies.
"Gnosticweb is a great site but too much is answered in a biblical approach rather than that of a clear, easy to follow set of principles discovered by scientists...we all talk ...but we never back it up by [giving gnostic experience]... "
- This place is a good elementary source of occult science and the principles you mention discovered by scientists are still present in gnosis; However, it is harder to validate spiritual things than intellectual things because of the nature of our psyche, which you should understand if you are really gnostic. You can't back up gnosis by talking, you have to validate it with intimate knowledge (Da'ath) and show others how, and many people don't work hard enough to do this. That's why people talk with the mind (intellect), because they have no gnosis of the truth (realizing it).
We all have to be aware of what Belzebuub was geting at, that conventional science and occult science will never validate one another to any degree of importance, because one is found with the mind and the other with the consciousness.
Join Date: 2007-08-26
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Victor Zammit is or was a lawyer who is a huge believer in life after death if you look at his site ( www.victorzammit.com ) and the hpysicists I mentioned are some of the many of high thinking reputable scientists who went through the facts that there is an aether, there is a life after death. The reason science (conventional) doesn't want any thing to do with the paranormal is because the entire structure of science today would needed to be changed ( Einstein is responsible for this as it is his theory that matter was energy squared and the universe was of this state, where Sir Oliver Lodge knew it was composed of high frequency aether. Thanks to Einstein, we have been put back one hundred years now in modern physics and it's only now that we are starting to think otherwise.