Do You have a Solar body?

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 07:12
AddisAstemari

Join Date: 2007-07-24
Forum Posts: 5

Hi all,

Just wondering Who here actually has a Solar body by doing the work.Why am I asking this? because I want to know if this is an realistic goal as it demands tremendous amount of time/effort/sacrifice (marriage?), which I am willing to give as long as I know other students of gnosticism have been able to do so as well .

Master Belzebuub says that he was already born with a solar body , so that doesnt count :)

Any light on this matter would be much appreciated.

Thanx!

Jon,

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 11:53
Marine

Join Date: 2008-06-03
Forum Posts: 64

I would love to read about the solar body, got a link?

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 13:32
Chris P

Join Date: 2003-09-22
Forum Posts: 61

Hey,
Due to the nature of the path, and creating bodies, the whole process is very personal, and should be kept to oneself.

VM Belzebuub shared his experiences as he is the leader of the movement and we can use his experiences to gain strength to achieve the initiations, to see that it is possible.

Of course it is a realistic goal it has to be, the whole work was not made to be unachievable, we all have the ability to go far. Its a choice as to weather you make it or not. Through experience you will realise what you are capable of.

Any details on the Solar bodies are in the gnostic wisdom course.

I hope that helps guys,
take care and work hard, otherwise there would be no point.
:-)

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 14:15
Jim B.

Join Date: 2004-05-28
Forum Posts: 943

You don't have to have a solar body or create one to do the practices and prove many things. When the Master started his work, he didn't know he had a solar body, he just applied himself to the practices very diligently and by doing so he gained experiences and knowledge. You too might have a solar body.

Yes it takes a lot of work and sacrifice to walk the Path, or at least so we're told. It's up to us whether we will follow his advice of giving the practices 100% for a certain period of time, he said he gave it 9 months, and see if it is worth your time.

He was born with one because he created one in some previous lifetime, so whether we have one already or not it is here to be achieved and in my opinion the Path to liberation is the only thing worth fighting for. Everything else, the job, the house, the money, the pleasures, etc. etc., all these things die, they just disappear in time, we're here but a little while then *blink* and we're gone, along with everything we thought we were, everything we worked so hard for. So it's worth putting 100% into finding what it is that is worth sacrificing everything.

"Blessed is the wise man who sought after the truth, and when he found it, he rested
upon it forever and was unafraid of those who wanted to disturb him."

--Jesus, from The Book of Thomas the Contender

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 15:04
AddisAstemari

Join Date: 2007-07-24
Forum Posts: 5

Hi Chris, Jim

Thanks for replying to the thread.

"the whole work was not made to be unachievable"

Really? Thats what Im trying to find out , if someone here has achieved something substantial like the creation/realization of a solar body. Maybe you can shed some light on why that knowledge is suppose to be kept personal when it can be used to inspire/guide others?

"It's up to us whether we will follow his advice of giving the practices 100% for a certain period of time, he said he gave it 9 months, and see if it is worth your time."

I can even give it 1 year, yet It would not be 100% because of missing key #2. Which is where Most of the Magic happens and that requires a lifetime commitement , doesnt it? Its not like you can investigate/try out marriage..can you?

What are your thoughts?

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 16:40
Mauricio

Join Date: 2005-05-29
Forum Posts: 183

Hi addisAstemari,

I think that putting 100% is actually  to put all that is needed from one to the practices that are available. Like this we see if these practices really have a big meaning and are trully helpful for us. So if for someone the second key is not available, then this person can put 100% to the two other keys and to the practices and excercises such as awareness, mantras, meditation, astral projection...

Experience that comes with the efforts is the only way to proof to oneself that something works and is real. If we put 100% to what we are able to do at each moment, then we will obviously discover for ourselves if this path is worth taking.

We can't wait until the moment that we can practice alchemy and neither we can't wait until the moment that we can put 100%, because if we want to find out things the moment to put 100% to it is right now present with everyone and if the path to transform ourselves really exists, then it is obvious that the whole purpous of life is to fight for it and put our most to it, and so like this everything needed for it becomes available to us.

May we put 100% to what we can do so that we find and gradually increase our strenght to a million percent. :-)

 Mauricio

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 17:18
Suave

Join Date: 2006-02-09
Forum Posts: 144

Amen

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 18:35
jo

Join Date: 2007-10-09
Forum Posts: 174

Oh seriously, Jim B and Mauricio,
You guys just wrote some awesome words there.
Double amen from me :)

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 22:55
Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2768

Hi Nathan,

Nice thread!
I'll share with my thoughts why "knowledge is supposed to be kept personal when it can be used to inspire/guide others."

Perhaps some of the reasons are the very nature of this work and existence of egos.

Spiritual work is individual and what is given for one person is about personal tests requiring 100% of commitment. A great rewards are given along this way as well as the responsibility to use them properly.
Someone who has passed one of a Major Initiations should have some extraordinary abilities...but is the level of internal work is sufficient to start talk openly about it? At that level...can talking about passing the Second Initiation make it much more difficult to pass the Third one, for example?

Whoever develops themselves spiritually needs to help others as one of the main components required for the progress. Would talking about having Solar Bodies be inspiring?
For some, under a certain circumstance, yes, sure, but from another hand to talk about it, especially publicly, can stir up so many egos too.
For example, I remember even sharing with some of my astral experiences...and then could feel mistrust ("prove to me that it is truth"), envy ("oh, you're getting good"), even fear ("you seem to be strong and potentially dangerous"), etc., and felt like should not share...

To sum it up, this answer is a sort of cliche here: "go investigate it by yourself", but perhaps that's exactly what is needed.
Persisting for understanding helps to find more understanding.

All the best!

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 23:05
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Join Date: 2008-03-18
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What is a Solar Body?

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Tue, 06/24/2008 - 23:28
Jim B.

Join Date: 2004-05-28
Forum Posts: 943

Yes that's what I meant by 100% as Mauricio explained. It's not about having all 3 keys right here and now, but about doing whichever ones we can right here and now.

When the Master says he gave it 100% for 9 months, he didn't go into it with the Alchemy, he went into it single, just like a lot of us do, I doubt he just went in there looking for a wife, probably didn't even know about Alchemy yet.

No I don't think you can really "try out" marriage, at least not without causing some difficulties to overcome. Definitely should not be something that is forced. There is plenty of work to be done without it.

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The Death is the fundamental basis for our spiritual development.
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Thus the only salvation is the work with the death, since with the death one reaches the chastity and the love for humanity.
--Rabolu