The egos of people around you

hello Sundance (nice name:)

Just look around for few others like you, no need to go show of and stuff. When there are many, also means there are many different characters. It's up to you who you join...
Remember when they look strange to you, it is not your fault or problem, but theirs, try not to react, just leave it.

Some periods of times we have to go 'crazy' things, just continue the path, cause a lot can be won at those times.

Strength,

Peter

Hi Sundance,

I can relate to your situation.

When I started to observe myself more I would also get to see more and more people's egos. And often I would protest about them and wonder how could people can be like that. Later on I found out that there's something tricky in this attitude. My thoughts of "how impossible it is to change when everyone acts like that" actually determined my efforts to failure and were hiding my own egos from me.

When I discovered that my protest was actually an ego in action a new door was opened, as I could see a bit more clearly the reason for my circumstances.

Once you realize this, I think, you get to see more effectively through the fakeness. You realize it's not people's fault, it's just how they are, how nature wants them to be and that deep within they have their essence that can manifest.
What I'd try is be open to them but not let them drag me into identification, of course, not easy to do. :)

good luck!

Also,,, I remembered something that I think is relevant here. Some time ago, I heard a woman telling about business something like "and then I realized, I don't need a better team, my team needs a better leader" which applied to this situation can be read like: we can't ask of people to be something more than what they are, to be more spiritual. However, by being a good example we can show them that there is a way of being which is different to what they think they need, one that feels much more peaceful.

I always try to remember that quote when I get the desire to complain about my situation and it seems to help. : )

Hi Sundance,

Can relate to been said by Peter and Pavlin. Situations like that can be great for learning.

If it is something which really disturbs you, maybe you can get into a habbit of doing a spiritual practice before going to the university (mantra can be a great one) and then, another one right afterwards (retrospection can work well).

Practicing before and after can help to stay detached and to be in a present moment, and to use whatever situations would arise for learning and progress.

All the best!

Thanks for all your advices. I'm trying to accept people just for what they are, with their good and bad sides just like me.

But i have to admit that some people make me angry when they don't has any interest to become better persons, but i know it's a problem of mine, it's a ego and I'll work more about it :-)

Beyond this, I'm accepting people with their egos just like i'm conscious i have some of them also, but I continue to feel different from them, like i'm talking another language (ego?).
In the pratice, I find difficult make real friendships. I would like have more spiritual friendships but looking around i see just superficiality.

" I'm trying to accept people just for what they are, with their good and bad sides just like me. "

Sounds like a very useful goal!

Yeah, for me too it's not easy with friendships.

From my perspective, similar attracts similar forming friendships, but as only one person changes internally, the gap with those who get stuck in material things, increases.
It's normal, that's how it always works I think.

The great thing about internal change is that when we are out of negative states, light of consciousness shines on everything around and comes in touch with other sparks of consciousness.
Just accepting things the way they are, being in touch with reality in a present moment, being in your place.

It's hard to be aware surrounded by others who are not, but from awareness it's much easier to deal with others in the best way.

Hello my friend,
an enemy can have the face of a deamon, and we can easily identify him. But the enemy is not an idiot, he can also take the face of a Saint, and then we have to be alert, to doubt everything, to question, and especially not to trust ourselves. The enemy can have many faces: spirituality, love, good will, very persuasive theories about how one should act, etc. I have found out that "laziness" has to do with one's own satisfaction about one's progress. The moment we feel or think that we are "something" we have "something", a big battle is ahead. A moment of inertia and the enemy takes out his widden weapons and it is very difficult to understand it is actually a deamon well hidden. The moment you believe you have conquered an enemy is because he wants you to believe that. War is difficult and painfull, one must learn to see the bullets, one must learn to feel the pain. Don't go to the battlefield without your weapons, because you will loose no matter what you think. And the feeling of victory is a kind of pact with the devil, underestimating the enemy is not a good plan if we want to win. Arm yourself, be honest, always doubt. Supereffort is needed, and it comes along with pain. But we learn something precious, that gives us strenght to fight more.
Strength to be alert, strength to understand, strenght to kill.

Hi Sundance,

I've felt the same way too! I remember when I was younger that I had a feeling of not fitting in with people and that I didn't really have a place in the world relating to finding good friends and fitting in. I got a bit stressed about it and the more I looked to fit in with people the more I stood out and seemed to come across to people in an odd way.

I really didn't have much of an affinity with the people I was trying to befriend and I didn't really understand them and the way they behaved and this confused me but i really wasn't a very relaxed type of person and didn't let friendships develop naturally either, there were nervous egos under neath my ambition to be peoples friends.

this was before I did any of these courses here so I didn't really understand why people acted the way they did or the reasons why I acted in those particular ways.

Your trying to change yourself and come out of the egos that you have and in doing so your starting to see all the types of egos that other people have and the drives that make them act in the way they do, unfortunately they don't have the understanding that you are developing by doing these courses and you will of course act differently to them and many of them won't understand you, they will try to relate to you through their egos and want you to respond to them in that way and when you don't act in the way they want they won't really know how to relate to you.

so be as strong as you can with your work that your doing but use the understanding your gaining, not to judge them but to let them be and leave them with compassion and love.

some people will sense this with in you and will try to relate to you in different ways to the others and you will eventually find people who you can build a friendship with, don't worry about things and see what happens.

All the best
Steve

Hi Sundance,

I think you're starting to see the difficult path of the inner work :-)

Our path in this life is to find the dark things within us, understand how they affect us and others, and then plead with the divine for their removal. This way, step by step, we head back to our source - back to the divine.

Being with the divine brings us a deep inner peace and stillness. Anything that takes us away from that peace comes from an ego. It's a very simple test that I use all the time, otherwise it's easy to be tricked by those tricky egos!

So whenever you think about it during the day, ask yourself if you are feeling that deep sense of peace within. If not, then there will be an ego there distorting your perceptions. Our circumstances in life are provided to help us spot these egos, and eliminate them from our lives.

With this in mind, it can be good to look at every interaction as a great opportunity to spot (our own!) egos, understand them and eliminate them... We can't eliminate what we don't see or understand. Remember, if you don't have inner peace at that moment, there's an ego there waiting to be discovered!

Like you, I used to feel lonely and isolated too. But when I looked at those feelings as egos that were trying to manipulate me, then the situation took on a whole new perspective, and gave me the strength to let those egos - and the lonely and isolating feelings they bring - go. Look for the strength within you, and friendships will naturally come - even if they are just online for a while!

All the strength in your journey :-)
Vicki

Ignore them, and be more concerned with your personal health. People that far gone (Sex, Pride, Ambition, Recognition etc.) Have become slaves unto themselves, their ego... I don't imagine as one person there is much you can do.

Maybe someday they can take control of the reigns again, but your just one person as are we all, so don't don't succumb to the "White Knight" Philosophy. You may begin to lose control of yourself. The best you can do is attempt to set examples, and hope that others see them, and make those decisions to change for themselves. Never can you MAKE someone change.

So long as they don't do anything violent, criminal (in your definition), or blatantly immoral (also your personal definition) that directly affect you, ignore them.

Pessimistic? Maybe, Viable? Yes.

"The Infection has Been Removed, The Soul of this Machine has Improved."