It is perhaps time for me to change.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Thank you >* for being the first one to reply to this thread. Only those that have understood some of my posts here might have understood this post right away I think. That is why I asked an elementary question to begin with, though it can seem like a very difficult question if one starts thinking that I astral travel much. I had to look for on my own, and then actually readd (P.S. was natural) the word "surmise".

Does it seem to anyone the gracity of the situation, only regards to this thread, has increased?

Hi Asim,

It's great that you want to change. It takes a lot of courage to see ourselves clearly and to take steps to make changes. It is quite a challenge.

Much strength to succeed,

Gabrielle

Hi Asim!

It's time for all of as to change. And the truth is that sometimes I feel we don't have much time left.
We are all loosing friends but the ones that leave as never really loved us. The ones that are trying to change us loved the idea of us that was only in their heads. I lost many friends too, but the very few that stayed, although they don't appreciate very much what I am doing, are the ones that will be by my side no matter what.
Now if by loosing you mean they departed, I now its hard, but think of it as a new opportunity for them to come back with better chances to evolve.

We all need help. Help from each other and help from "Above". The latter is always with us, even when we don't seem to understand it.

Wishing you and everyone here all the best. I am too knew to give you advise, but I can give everyone here my love, my best wishes and my prayers to find their way towards the light.

D: "Try not to live in quantum physics, calculus, complicated exponential math, etc."

I don't live in those, some portions of those are just ingrained to some degree in me.

D: "It seems that you are very intelligent, but is that making you get too deep into your mind?"

My heart sings along very nicely with a number of musics of profound -- contexts dependent scenes. Presently, I think a number of these are from the black/advanced mythology that I can hardly get my mother to start looking at.

D: "Can you just sit and not think of anything? Is your mind ever quiet? Don't let thoughts and mysteries just roil around in your head and cause you to think, think, think, think, figure, figure, figure....... Try to calm your world down to just addition and subtraction."

I'd like to do my own things, having different rooms for basic experments, basic particular worshops; both for kids to use, and scheduled times for (personal?) meditation. But presently, I have to work alongside my
caretakeres who help and save lives everyday, sometimes having to work 24 hour shifts. All three of us are doing good work, but we need to work in better harmony and better undserstand each other to make further progress.

G: "It takes a lot of courage to see ourselves clearly and to take steps to make changes."

I need to work on interacting with people live. I'm pathetic in this regard. I plan to start with chatting, then skype perhaps; i.e. If I can't start some sort of real tutoring soon.

K: "We are all loosing friends but the ones that leave as never really loved us. The ones that are trying to change us loved the idea of us that was only in their heads. I lost many friends too, but the very few that stayed, although they don't appreciate very much what I am doing, are the ones that will be by my side no matter what."

I do see something like that happening to myself over time. Though its just me wishing, and trying to make friends of the fhird kind, whilst ignoring the evil shcemes my relatives tend to run against my family.

K: "We all need help. Help from each other and help from "Above". The latter is always with us, even when we don't seem to understand it."

My family, the three of us are being pounded in several ways. Clearly this pounding could be reduced if we harmonized ourselves. But again, here's what me mother wanted me to investigate originally:

Surah 21: The Prophets:

21:83: And Job, when he cried unto his Lord, (saying): Lo! adversity afflicteth me, and Thou art Most Merciful of all who show mercy.

21:84: Then We head his prayer and removed that adversity from which he suffered, and We gave him his household (that he had lost) and the like thereof along with them, a mercy from Our store, and a remembrance for the worshippers.

Can someone please elaborate this by referring to Scripture?

Sincerely,

Asim

Well, I think you have a good plan with regard to building stronger relationships and making your relationships more harmonious. Relationships with others can be such a source of strength when they are in a good state. I wish you a lot of success with that.

I think that it's good you want to build up your social skills through chat, skype, etc...It can definitely help to gain more experiences like that. Maybe you could jot down notes about the different thoughts, emotions, drives, agendas, that surface as you gain those experiences. Doing so helped me a lot with overcoming similar obstacles.

Another thing that helps me is taking a few minutes to get to a state of peace before going into the different social experiences. Once I feel that kind of peace, I want to fight hard to maintain it and interact with others through it. I hope this makes sense.

Take care,

Gabrielle

Hi Asim,

I guess I misunderstood your post. When I read it, it seemed that you were saying you were in a deep hole, not interacting with people in real life and the situation was grave. So, it just seemed to me that you were way too much in your own head. Do you know what I mean? I was just trying to give you helpful suggestions to come out of all that thinking you were up to.

I have a hard time reading and understanding what you are saying exactly. Sorry about that.

Dusty

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ASIM wrote: "My heart sings along very nicely with a number of musics of profound -- contexts dependent scenes. Presently, I think a number of these are from the black/advanced mythology that I can hardly get my mother to start looking at."

It is natural that we do not want to hurt or alienate those that loves us deeply, but it is a free will world with set laws of causes and consequences and it is everyones free will to experience their life, their path in it, to the fullest of their will. Love is unconditional and what hurt might be perceived is one through the ego. I have looked many times at my relationship with my physical parents and that I have with my wife.
With parents we have no choice to change things we are born on to them, yet we can learn about their ego-based-personality and observe how they wish to mold us and the world around them in to a perfect image of them selves (my case). Perhaps you are the lucky one and had parents that did not place their objectives on to you, but nurtured you in positiveness of unconditional love.

With my wife, she have excepted me based upon my display of my ego-based-personality (and my good looks;) naturally). Now that I am working on annihilation of my ego triggered pulls that have shaped the ego-based-personality, I notice that it causes many fears and worries in her. She is realizing that which she have felt comfortable with in me is disappearing. This was the anchor for our relationship.

Friendships are built upon belonging to idea, lifestyle, concepts. This beautiful phenomena allows us to break down the self-built protective walls of defense and allow others to get closer to us. This is how love is won and experienced. Once people grow older their interests change and our friends that still cling on to the old lifestyles start to disappear from our life as they have found those people that still pursue such ideas or lifestyles that they love.

ASIM wrote: "I'd like to do my own things, having different rooms for basic experiments, basic particular workshops; both for kids to use, and scheduled times for (personal?) meditation. But presently, I have to work alongside my
caretakers who help and save lives everyday, sometimes having to work 24 hour shifts. All three of us are doing good work, but we need to work in better harmony and better understand each other to make further progress."

To do thinks alone is the true path to GOD, only you can learn about who Asim is, only you need to have Asim experience, that is why you are Asim. If you look at all geniuses in history they have one thing in common, they have wholly thrown them selfs into their thirst to know. They have not been very good family guys or girls, their ideas and their work came first. This is example of experience of obsession, experience of intellect working upon our psyche.
You have free will to live up to this inner need or break down the doors of your inner programming and set your self free through gnosis. This rebellion is walking against the river of life and it never gets any easy.

Harmony between people on other hand requires giving of your self to others. Harmony can only function when there is true care for each others experiences. It also needs trust. If one person in the group is mistrustful the team will struggle, but if the others are truly caring they will help the one who is struggling.

Awareness and meditation on silencing the mind will bring one in to piece with one self, then you will never have problem with other people, therefore giving of your self is easier when you have no strings pulling you in all directions. Harmony is achieved when all take the same steps together. When you have no other business to attend to, your experience in harmony will be rewarded with great feeling of love and your consciousness will expand.

ASIM wrote: "My family, the three of us are being pounded in several ways. Clearly this pounding could be reduced if we harmonized ourselves. But again, here's what me mother wanted me to investigate originally:"

Your mother is afraid that the Koran's described devil is pulling you away from your roots and faith. She does not realize that what you are doing does not removes from your Family's faith it makes it more understandable. The influence of devil is in all of us. What gnosis does is to define the devil in us. It makes us understand how we give our selfs into devil's pulls, and gives us clear path by which we can liberates our selfs from the strings of devil - the great puppeteer. That is the goal of all religions of the world, but the teaching is not in the writing on the line, but what is written between lines - the code in the words. What is being written is that what is not seen with the physical worldly eyes, but when we view it from the perspective in all dimensions of existence, earthly and heavenly, then the teaching stands clear as a sunny day.

Love your enemies and you will no longer have any enemies to hate, just the sorrow for your brothers who do not know what they do.
But remember, to teach when you are not the teacher, can be early end to your life, in other words: don't stand in front of the bullet before its your time. When you are the master of the matter, then you will be able to dematerialize before the bullet, then you will teach others by example. This is the goal of the work - to became the master of your being, for that you must be free of the devils strings - the self willed ego. That will take full consciousness, when that happens you will find that all along was the will, the mastery and the guidance of God.

Wishing you all a great spiritual morning.

D: "I have a hard time reading and understanding what you are saying exactly. Sorry about that."

Dusty, you were right about me really lacking in live interaction, but I wrote about the void bit because I started to understand the meaning of "slave of God" in Scripture, and the term(s) helper/friend of God now were really spacing me out. I thought that if I didn't lose my tendency to prematurely look into these term(s), I might not have friends to help me and lose badly.

C:"Love your enemies and you will no longer have any enemies to hate, just the sorrow for your brothers who do not know what they do."

Currently, I don't how I would be now, if you hadn't posted in the topics I was struggling in. However, I would admonish you to look carefully into what you wrote above. I was made to think about a black apprentice who loves when things are thrown at him: we need to give attention to those who really need our help but wouldn't ever openly ask or beg for it. We shouldn't give attention to haters of gnosis thinking this is really the best thing to do.