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Wed, 04/23/2008 - 02:03
Andrei

Join Date: 2007-08-26
Forum Posts: 181

I know that people that project in the lower sphere or astral plane closer to earth can fly because they are still nearer to earth and they can defy the lower vibrations of our world. But what about spirit people in the higher spheres, can they fly like astral projectioners ?

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Wed, 04/23/2008 - 07:29
Patrik

Join Date: 2004-01-08
Forum Posts: 219

The ability to fly and levitate is part of the that dimension as a whole (that is the astral) and it does not matter weither you are close to earth or far from it, weither you have a physical body or not, you can fly in any case.

Now there might be some spirits close to earth etc due to limited knowledge of the reality they are in etc, that do not know they can fly. But this is not because they are unable, but because they believe that they cannot.

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Wed, 04/23/2008 - 08:05
Paycus

Join Date: 2005-09-15
Forum Posts: 114

Hi Andrei, do you mean can people fly in the levels higher than the astral dimension?

Best wishes
Jackie

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Wed, 04/23/2008 - 09:16
Apakhana

Join Date: 2005-01-26
Forum Posts: 771

If we can not visit the infra-dimensions without a solar body, how is it that we manage to get there during nightmares?

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Wed, 04/23/2008 - 14:18
Ruben C.

Join Date: 2005-10-09
Forum Posts: 259

When we go there in nightmares we are a prisoner of circumstances, we ate too much and went to sleep. This can send us there due to various reasons. If we are in very low states everyday, we can be more prone to being sent there too. When we are there we are scared, terrified.

With a solar astral body, we can go there without being a prisoner, but as a stranger going to investigate consciously.

Ruben

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Wed, 04/23/2008 - 21:53
Andrei

Join Date: 2007-08-26
Forum Posts: 181

Hi Jackie, yes I should specifically said that but yes that's what I mean. Thanks.

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Wed, 04/23/2008 - 23:28
Apakhana

Join Date: 2005-01-26
Forum Posts: 771

Thanks Ruben. It's about controling it then.

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Thu, 04/24/2008 - 00:58
Patrik

Join Date: 2004-01-08
Forum Posts: 219

>Hi Jackie, yes I should specifically said that
>but yes that's what I mean. Thanks.

Perhaps I should then add that my statement above was in regards to the various levels of the astral dimension. I do not know weither it is possible to fly in dimensions above the astral, though if it were not possible I would be quite surprised.

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Thu, 04/24/2008 - 02:11
Paycus

Join Date: 2005-09-15
Forum Posts: 114

Thanks for the clarification. I dont know the answer but I assume that on the higher levels the physical form of the body doesnt exist, more of an ethereal form. i will look further into it as I am curious!

Best wishes
Jackie

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Fri, 04/25/2008 - 13:30
Dusty

Join Date: 2007-11-02
Forum Posts: 716

With a solar astral body, we can go there without being a prisoner, but as a stranger going to investigate consciously.

Why would you even want to? I wanna go up, not down.

Dusty

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Fri, 04/25/2008 - 14:22
Jim B.

Join Date: 2004-05-28
Forum Posts: 923

Just as if you wish to take a high jump, you must exert a force downwards. Because what you would be investigating are parts of yourself that exist in the infradimensions, such as raw fear. Or you could help beings who are stuck there but have a spark of repentance.

Good point, though, I don't think we should necessarily "want" to go there, but it is inevitable that we face it at some point.