Evolution & Involution

It is something that I do not understand much my self. At present I use this more or less as carrot on the stick. It pushes me forward in wanting to do this work.

One healer mystic I read about gave interesting perspective on this. His perspective said that we all have a soul which then is passed through the screen of Universal Consciousness. This Universal Consciousness holds the blueprints of all that is and that ever will be. When the light of the soul passes through this screen or blueprint, it will take that shape in the world of separation. Here it will gain understanding of this event or circumstance which is being expressed. This theory can work as evolution concept if we accept that the soul first need to understand simple forms of consciousness and once that existence is understood it moves on to more complex organisms, until it reaches human, and then perhaps on to higher organism (soul is then what is understood as "the spark" perhaps). But that would not work with devolution. This view is common interpretation from New Agers.

Samael however states that we do not have soul incarnated, therefore we have not earned the eternity as conscious beings, but rather exist only as "the spark" ( I guess many would argue what the spark really is). Now Samael have or claim to have the ability to verify his statements (I do not therefore all this is still a theory to me). One would ask where and how does he confirm this? We all have heard of Akashik Records of the Universal Consciousness or mind. There one can see all of their existences. If what Samael states about 108 lives then could be confirmed there, as we would be able to see our being going from mineral to plant, then to animal, and on to a human form. Then human form for 108 consecutive existences and then we find ourself in animal body again, and down the chain. We would also need some timeline to be associated with these consecutive existences. That is perhaps how the master learned of this.

But why would there be a need for devolution if the point is to understand and learn and experience the world of separation? Is it because we get stuck? Fall away from the light of that marvelous spark? Is it because the Law is that darkness cannot create (it is that from darkness light comes forth with the cosmic vibration of The Word <-- the Universal Consciousness = expression of The Creator?)? Is it that in darkness all of creation stand still and to keep life flowing, there must be motion (light = motion) - the vibration of The Word?

In "Pistis Sophia unveiled", Sophia ( the wisdom) is tricked into the darkness and her light (wisdom) is stolen from her. Then by vibrating the darkness the wisdom is revealed. When you capture that wisdom it turns in to the light of your being, and when you capture all of the wisdom, you become the Great Light of Creation - The Word - The Source of Life - The Eternal Love.

Perhaps devolution exists because once we are swallowed by darkness we cannot find the way back to light. If you look at cells in your body, it is better to have healthy cells replicating then the sick ones. It is better to take the sick cells and disintegrate them back to basic components from which a new healthy cells can be built again. Then devolution would be a gift. As reaching the light of Christ is the closure of human form experience and then we can move on to other realms of GOD (or even expressing as GOD).

To find out the answers and who is right we just will have to find that on our own, with the ability to be in Astral and visit this great cosmic archive. I wish you all much strength in getting there, and hope to put more effort in to my own verification.

It is rather simple if taken only one step at a time. The master here have given us the great gift of simplicity. It is best to keep it that way and take one real experience before the next.

Wishing you all a great spiritual morning.

The new age perspective is theoretical and embraces believing something because it makes sense or sounds good.
What Samael offers is his interpretation of what was contained in the libraries of his Rosicrucian fraternity, and then backed it up to himself with his own experience. That's using gnosis. That is not belief.

Samael did state that we do not have soul incarnated. If you define "soul" the same as him, then he's right.

..."But why would there be a need for devolution if the point is to understand and learn and experience the world of separation?"...

How many people fail to realize anything as far as spiritual importance because of our own selfishness? If there are 108 lives then I think that's more than enough fair chance. To mention what has already been said before, would you want everything you wrongly identify with to grow forever?

I like what Currently wrote about the cells in the body...
Why do people tend to think negatively about devolution?

If devolution becomes a truth to me and I don't make ascension, I would hope that Ma'at and her Divine check-and-balance Justice would keep my own ignorance from ruining anything for anyone else.

Everything's pretty simple really, but the selfish parts of our psyche that don't want to die complicate things to perpetuate their existence.

Hi,

It's best to be practical. Put things aside for now that you don't understand or you don't know. If we think about it and come up with answers or read more books what will we end up with?

So we know that if you combine concentration with sleep we get Astral Projection right? Some of us has verified this, now this is knowledge no matter how small it is.

Self-awareness, the peace that being in the present moment brings, egos, personality. All these are all verifiable and it doesn't matter how small it may seem because this is the basis for so much more...

It's so difficult to put in the effort, to continue and just pursue pure knowledge. Only effort will get us the answers, and it is all there waiting for us.

Ruben

Dusty, this topic is covered in detail in the Gnostic wisdom course. If you are in that course - it would be better to ask such topic related questions in the course forums. That way others talking the courses would benefit from your questions(as not all may visit these general forums).

This is only a theroy for most of us. The Absolute out of love sends its particles to become self-aware, and this world and everything in it is created so that we can become self-aware. Compare it to a school where there are oppurtunities to learn, and then many challenges and test are put to see how much one has learnt. There are obstacles in learning - and there are choices with each one. Not everyone likes to study and gets distracted due to egos.

In simple words, the sparks of light have the chances in these turns of wheel, to incarnate the Sun and return to Absolute with full consciousness and with divine incarnated( which is same as having found the kingdom of heaven within). The essences that fail to awaken devolve on the wheel, as their egos have succeded, and since evil is not allowed to grow beyond a limit or it will take over the world.

dyou meen devolution?

Hi Dusty
Devolution/evolution and theory can get quite confusing and hard to accept, for anyone who is introducted to these ideas for the first time.

What helps me, is to see why things need to devolve.

Not to turn this political, but would you like to see George Bush in power forever?

It is the same spiritually, evil must come to an end, the egos must finish, one way or another. That is how I see devolution and the turning of the wheel, a way to keep things in check.
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Thanks Ruben,

I did drop this, thanks to your wise viewpoint. I just wanted to say that I appreciate everyone's input.

Dusty

Hello Dusty,

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