Not going into the light?

Hi Apakhana,

Actually, as far as I understand this topic (which is pretty much all intellectual), where we end up depends on the strength of our egos, etc.

If we have another life yet to come and our egos are strong then we just stay in the astral. It's only if our egos are weak that we get to go to the causal before our next life, which is a much more spiritual experience and apparently provides the deceased with spiritual strength.

Kind regards,

Mike

Hi Apakhana,

From what I've learned intellectually, it's not necessarily the causal, where not awakened people go after death.
Our misdeeds can make us to be "too heavy" for that and attach us to the astral before the next life, or even cause us falling into Abyss, depending on state of karma and dharma.

Are we forced to go to the causal...can we resist it... perhaps going to the causal is precceded by help from Divine, so our consciousness gets activated...and in this state I don't think anyone would even think or feel like rebelling, it won't make any sense, unless he or she is a demon or something...
You know, like a person can have a bad intentions towards someone and just look into their eyes and there is "truth" in the eyes.
It brings so much remorse and you feel sorry, feel empathy... bad intentions are gone, for now.

Best wishes,

Vadim

do you have to go into a next life? i want to stay up there

i dont want another physical life.

Hi Jahfonde,

From what I understand for the most part we have to have another physical life if we don't advance far enough spiritually.

This physical world, although less glamorous than the higher dimensions, is necessary for us to learn spiritually.

Best wishes,

Mike

Hello Apakhana,

Interesting question. I thought I'd share my bit on it.

Unfortunately, we actually have very little control of anything while we are in this state of psychological sleep - mostly under the control of the subconscious.

If you are looking at your dreams every night and seeing what's happening there and how you are behaving there, you'll get an idea of what death is going to be like if nothing within changes. Most people who aren't working on themselves will just be immersed in the projections of their subconscious, oblivious to what's going on or even of the fact that they are dead; just like in a dream except there is no physical body to come back to and give us a stable point of reference.

If you were actually in the circumstance in which you had a chance to consciously go into the light (the causal plane), it's highly unlikely that you'd want to pass on it.

At death, and even in life, we are at the mercy of the Law in which the divine hierarchs enforce. But we have the opportunity to liberate ourselves from this and it's in our best interest to do so.

When we see ourselves for what we truly are, everything gets put into proper perspective and this inner work takes on a whole new life rather than just being an ideal that we try to pursue for whatever reason.

All the best,
Michael

mike but can you finnish spiritual work up there?

Only after doing a whole lot of work here first.

The work doesn't get easier, if we can't make steps forward right now, then we won't make steps forward up there.

"Each man who aspires to this vigilance must make his own track and walk alone, attentive solely on the step of the instance, without being preoccupied neither with triumph nor defeat, nor uneasy about his earthly end." ...from Flight of the Feathered Serpent

Michael

wow.
that reply was godly.
gosh.

How do you mean Jahfonde? I apologize if I came off too harsh in whatever way. It's just that from what I've experienced so far, this work is very difficult and the way I see it, I think it may help if people understood this directly so that people can be better prepared. I've seen the damage that misconceptions about spirituality and this path can do, so I try to be direct, since trying to be 'tactful' seems condescending to me.

I appreciate it when people are honest with me, no matter how painful it might be. Therefore I try to do the same.

All the best to you in your pursuits,
Michael

i was literal. lol
i ment what i said, i wasnt being sarc.
what you said was very good, sall i ment.