Why didn't Jesus write down his own account?

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Wed, 03/19/2008 - 03:25
Brandino

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I was sitting at home watching some television when I thought to myself..."With all these other people writing the gospels I wonder why Jesus didn't write his own." I mean, "Masters" in this day and age seem to write books on their experiences...and why not, they seem to help a lot of people. The bible, as well as the gnostic gospels, are supposed to be the written (inspired) word of God are they not? So if Jesus was God incarnate wouldn't it make more sense to write the book himself instead of relying on others years after?

~Brandon

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Wed, 03/19/2008 - 04:30
Matija

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I guess he didn't write books because he demonstrated what is needed through his life, showing it to the public like that. So, in a sense, his life was a book, from which those with sufficient understanding can learn.

Those were different times, though. So teachings were given through symbols and parables, as he did it, not as directly as it is done nowadays.

I don't think Jesus relied on others to interpret his teachings. However, their meaning became obscure, because they were given in different circumstances and time, when people who wanted spirituality had more understanding and could understand the meaning of his deeds. We, however, live in a different time, and we do need help to learn how to investigate things and verify them for ourselves.

Take care,
Matija

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Wed, 03/19/2008 - 07:30
Apakhana

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More than half the Bible has nothing to do with Yeshua and is a mix-match of different things.

As Matjia was mentioning, someone could intellectually study the new testament their whole life and still be absolutely nowhere as far as The Work is concerned.
If I was him, I would already know that and would understand this reason for not putting teaching into writing.

Actions can be stronger than words and from what I understand, his life was lead in a speciffic way that when the story of his life was told, those who where able to decipher the esoteric side of it wouldn't need to rely on reading about it.

I definately have to agree the meanings are completely obscured now to most people.

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Wed, 03/19/2008 - 14:42
Vadim

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That's an interesting question, Brandino.

It seems that in those times writing books was a much more complicated task than now, much more costy and taking a lot of time.
Time is precious. Perhaps, it was just not a part of his mission, He had something more important to do.

From another hand, who knows, maybe Jesus wrote a wonderful book to be discovered yet, maybe not in this dimension...

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Wed, 03/19/2008 - 23:41
ptr1968

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Look at the world today, how some people react to the writings of bible and quran. Reacting with violence.
This was obvious not the purpose.

Then there are scientists and scholars, during their whole life, only studying the texts intellectual...
Even when a text indicates gnosis/knowledge trough experience and awareness.
How intellectual can it get...

When I did the courses here, it was taught that the best way of teaching is direct personal. (the way of Jesus)
Altough I hear now that the internet has such a big impact, that a big focus is here now.

Peter

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Fri, 03/21/2008 - 15:19
Emily

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Well I think perhaps it could have been because maybe stories and passing things down by mouth.  Perhaps he never had time to write things down himself or didn't think much of it.  Maybe he didn't want to be kidded by keeping a diary. ;)

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Sat, 03/22/2008 - 06:03
Christos

Join Date: 2006-12-14
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Nice question.
It makes you wonder what would have happened if Jesus had written His Teachings and His autobiography.
Would the Gospels exist then?

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Sat, 03/22/2008 - 06:31
foxtse

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Also think of this, if I would write a book, then my credibility is at risk, but if many people write books based on what I said and in their perspective and the perspective of many is coherent and contains the same context, then it becomes more believable.

In fact, faith is what humanity lacks of, that's why the catholic church only selected 4 gospels, because these 4 were very similar in teachings and structure, the rest of the gospels were banned because the first popes of the catholic church were incredulous, that is humanity.

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Sat, 03/22/2008 - 10:37
Vadim

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I think humanity lacks also understanding that truth is not just something to beleive in or realize, but something to find and to live according too.

Perhaps, it's the level of humanity as the whole, that egos are so predominant and only few are interested to study the world within and search for the truth.

Belzebuub says: "if we study inwardly, we learn the causes, then what are beliefs and unreachable for many, become verifiable objective experiences for us.", does he wants to beleive in his words, or wants to help to study inwardly?

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Tue, 03/25/2008 - 23:47
Jim B.

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I don't think we really know that Jesus didn't write anything Himself.

For one thing, Jesus isn't just any "Master," He came from the Absolute with a purpose, as where a Master is someone who has incarnated that part of his Being at the end of the first mountain. More of this is covered in the Gnostic Wisdom course.

Jesus knew the persecution of the Gnostics would come, He knew His teachings would be prostituted. In a way I think all that is part of the bigger teaching, too. We can see all the same demons in us, we prostitute the teachings, turning them into vain beliefs rather than making the efforts to "Be perfect, as your Father in Heaven is perfect."

Jesus also tells the story in Luke 13 of the dresser of a man's vineyard, and the man tells him there's nothing left to get and to destroy it, but the dresser tells the man, "Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it. And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down." So I think one aspect of this refers to what Jesus did. He had to dung up our world. He set in motion the next 2000 years and even more... One man who never did anything wrong.... Pretty amazing. "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three." Luke 12:51-52

Anyways, I think my original point was that we don't really know if He wrote anything, just that we don't have a document right now with the name Jeshua as the author, although there are books in the Nag Hammadi Library without authors' names, ones that seem to be written by a higher source, one written by Melchizedek (the high priest who is also said to be Jeshua). You never know what might turn up. But you can know if He did write anything Himself, then we'd only find it when we're supposed to ;)

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Thu, 04/03/2008 - 14:49
Mike

Join Date: 2007-09-24
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Four writers - four parts - is all part of the divine plan. Mark is symbolized by a lion, Mathew by youth, John by the eagle, the gospel of Luke the bull. The four gospels are the realization of the great work the Magnus Opus. Symbolizing the four elements of nature. Mark is fire. Mathew Water. John is air. Luke is Earth. According to Samael Aun Weor in the Perfect Matrimony “The four Gospels can only be understood with the key of Sexual Magic and the Perfect Matrimony. The four Gospels were only written to serve as a guide to the few who follow the Path of the Razor’s Edge. The four Gospels were never written for the multitudes.” For a better understanding read the Gnostic Gospel The Pistis Sophia Unveiled here at http://www.gnosticweb.com/files/pdf/EN_Pistis_Sophia_Unveiled.pdf