Animalistic instincts

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Sat, 03/01/2008 - 10:45
Elliot

Join Date: 2006-01-27
Forum Posts: 108

The most basic urge of the human animal is procreation. I have read about lust and people trying to kill their lust etc. but I don't really understand it. When we talk about killing egos, what is the distinction between this and repression? And what separates lust from healthy sexual feelings?

Repressing your feelings is bad for your health. If you repress your feelings, you go against nature and it has it's toll on the body and mind.

Yet I can see how animalistic urges can be damaging.

Where is the happy medium?

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Sat, 03/01/2008 - 13:21
Jim B.

Join Date: 2004-05-28
Forum Posts: 912

Hi Elliot,

There is a practice that uses sexual energies internally, to give energy, and to birth the spiritual bodies necessary to incarnate the Divine within. Here we refer to the practice as Sexual Alchemy, or often just "Alchemy," and it's taught in the Gnostic Wisdom course. It's a practice for the married couple to refine the energies and use them in a spiritual way, not the animal way.

Samael talks a lot about lust in The Mystery of the Golden Blossom, found at the bottom of this page for free :)

Also Vadim's response here really hits some key points on the difference between Love and Desire.

Best wishes,
Jim B.

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Sat, 03/01/2008 - 14:10
Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2620

Hi Elliot,

Just to add up some things to what Jim wrote, yes, I definitely agree with you, as well as most of the modern psycholgists that repression of negative emotions is bad, especially in the long run.
Maybe an analogy can be that dirty dishes need to be washed but not to be "repressed" somewhere...where they can't be seen...

Going further from most of the common psychological studies, Gnosis teaches that besides our natural instincts, functions of our body and brain, unfortunately we have in the astral world subconscious elements of parasitic nature, manifesting in our bodies, using our energy, manipulating our actions, affecting us very negatively, to put it simply.

So, for example, it's a normal human instinct to eat, and it's necessary for survival, but egos of gluttony can make a person to overeat, think compulsively about food, eat something which tastes good but is harmful for that person, etc., finally, it can cause even a numerous sicknesses and eventually early death, which is totally against the initial instinct of survival.
With lust, it's the same thing, but stronger, usually.

With elimination, there is a specific force which is used, "divine element", superior to both physical and astral planes. This force can actually eliminate egos and free our particles of consciousness out of it.
For me elimination works very differently from repression, I experienced both affirmations (and other techniqies) and elimination.

Sorry, but this is very primitive and fragmented explanation.
If you are interested to learn what Gnosis teaches regarding it, the courses can provide you with the full picture.
Egos and consciousness are explained in Self Discovery course while Gnostic Wisdom course explains the tools required for the process of elimination,

BesT WisheS!

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Thu, 03/20/2008 - 07:06
LittleHuman

Join Date: 2005-11-13
Forum Posts: 34

I think that problem with humans is the mind. Our minds are different than those of the animals and this is very closely related to that divine spark that we all cary within. Our, how should I say, "enlightened" or "addapted for human level of consciousness" mind acts like a catalyst for any animal drive especially procreation. So this is why animal is "innocent" and human is not. I'll give you a banal example: you can't find a sexual fetish among animals they just follow what Nature already gave them, while human fetishes can be really absurd. THAT is the power of the mind.
There's a song that says something like this:
"I hate Nature, it was born so long before, knows nothing 'bout human race... that's why it often looks unkind" :)