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Fri, 02/22/2008 - 16:06
Mauricio

Join Date: 2005-05-29
Forum Posts: 172

I have a small question, difficult for me to answer though..

Where or how do I get the necessary courage to do what I know I need to do?

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Fri, 02/22/2008 - 20:12
Adam Enilder

Join Date: 2005-02-16
Forum Posts: 583

Hey Mate,

Sorry I haven't seen you in a while and been able to chat. I have been wondering how you are.

I think the question you ask is quite a big one Mauricio. And one we all ask, at different times, or in different forms.

It seems courage comes from some type of strength. This strength coming from within. Which at moments, or at times is hard to discern under the mountain of egos that is covering it up.

I feel if we search for this strength and try and remember why we are doing the Work, what we want, what the spiritual is, every experience that we have that validates it-then this strength can start to be felt once again.

Coming back to courage as well. I know that I have personally been seeing much fear in normal life but also in spiritual terms, as resistance. Fear can be very strong and debilitating and has managed to block me in many regards. It is an ego though so there must be a higher power. This power which can defeat it, overcome it, move past it wherever it wants to show up. I think this power is love.

It seems love is such a critical ingredient to how we approach the Work and why we do it. I think if I can find that love I know I have for the spiritual, the love for the being, love for humanity, then that will defeat this fear that consumes me. That love will give me a driving strength that will naturally overpower the fear when it does arise. Love will give courage.

We all have our own way of doing the Work. I wish you all the best to discover within you the approach best to help you on your path.

Strength, love and peace Mauricio,
Adam.

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Sat, 02/23/2008 - 04:52
Mauricio

Join Date: 2005-05-29
Forum Posts: 172

Hey Adam, I haven't been able to chat much lately either, so no worries. thanks for asking, in general I'd say I am okay. I've been wondering the same about you and Jon, I hope you guys and the centre are doing great.

I have to thank you for your reply, it helped me a lot to come and check if there were replies, and read yours.

I definetly can relate with what you said about fear. I sometimes feel kind of lost, not in general, but with specific things both with the work and with daily tasks. Now that I retrospect, it is a type of fear that tries to keep me from going ahead. In my case It's fear to failure I think; failure is not good, but I guess I can even learn from it and that is not an excuse for not going ahead with what I need to do.

Thanks again, you moved me to reflect on what I'm looking for, why I am here, and how to approach my inner work. thankyou Adam and strenght to you too.

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Sat, 02/23/2008 - 07:34
Jim B.

Join Date: 2004-05-28
Forum Posts: 923

Hi Mauricio,

I don't know if you heard Belzebuub's first talk, the one on "What is Gnosis," which he has up now on his website here. I point it out, because I just listened to it again today, and it's very powerful, he addresses some questions related to what you're saying here, particularly the second question that starts at about 12 minutes 43 seconds in.

Best wishes and much strength,
Jim B.

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Sat, 02/23/2008 - 07:58
David G

Join Date: 2003-09-08
Forum Posts: 868

Hi Mauricio,

I've asked the same question lots of times.

We have some tibetan flags up at my house, and one of them has a description of courage on it: 'Not the absence of fear or despair, but the strength to conquer them'.

I definitely haven't got this perfect yet, and there are a lot of times when I wish I had been more courageous, but there are a few things that help me in this respect.

I think the strength to do the work and to be courageous comes from our Divine Parents, if I'm struggling a lot and seem to be without strength, it's usually because I've stopped talking to my Divine Parents enough. I think we have to find the way to let their strength come through us.

It also helps me to try and remember in the hard times that everything in life happens because it's meant to happen and that we are going through what we're going through for a reason. If we weren't supposed to have something happen in our life then it wouldn't. I like that part of Jesus' sermon on the mount where he says something like 'Remember, our Father knows what we need before we even ask for it.' It helps me to do the will of the Father, then I know that things are happening for the right reason, and that can give me strength to push through.

And I think too we need to know why we're fighting, and what we're fighting for. So then whenever we're in a hard situation we have that as a light at the end of the tunnel to give us strength. Belzebuub talks about that quite a bit in the Talks In Quebec on his website. I think it's definitely worth a read if you haven't yet, because he explains it a lot better than I can.

David

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Sat, 02/23/2008 - 08:13
Apakhana

Join Date: 2005-01-26
Forum Posts: 771

Hi everyone,

On the context of the original post,

It's not really courage that is needed.
To me, it is the ability to see the necessity to exact a correct type of change at every moment in time.
This clear and aware state of observing from a true perspective is what is needed.

Correct meaning that the variable of constance or continuation is present, and it doesn't turn into a temporary short-term change. That kind is not real change anyway.

I suppose it could be defined as "courage," to eliminate the self and obstacles ego places in front of us, not allowing us to see truth from a clear perspective anyway.

I hope where I'm comning from makes sense to other people. Usually I can't get people to see things from my perspective even though it is one we can all share.

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Sat, 02/23/2008 - 12:17
Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2635

Hey Mauricio,

For me the definition of courage is to be able to act despite of fear.

I have a lot of fears to deal with... If I know that I need to do something and go against fear, I just try to do it and in the same time apply the elimination technique to all the egos being observed: thoughts, emotions, sensations...towards everything coming out of subconsiois, until it's all all gone and centers are clear.
I am quite confident that when egos of fear die, particles of consciousness come out of it and COURAGE INCREASES.

From my experiences, fear can be very tricky though: for example, fear can push to act to confront fear and actually feed fear, it's possible to be scared of being scared, fear can look very natural and normal in a certain situations, be very well justified.

Well, easy to talk about it...difficult to act.
May we all be courageous and get rid of all the fears. (and other egos too...)

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Sat, 02/23/2008 - 12:28
Mauricio

Join Date: 2005-05-29
Forum Posts: 172

Hello guys, thanks a lot for replying.

Apakhana, I think I get what you are trying to say; if I completely consciouslly objectively and trully comprehend what I need to do, I will without hesitating. did I get you right?
Also, to be honest I was having a hard time in choosing the best word for that question so that I could ask what I wanted to ask. I found the meaning of 'courage' on wikipedia.org/wiki/courage, it's quite interesting, specially inside the "Religion & Philosophy" subtitle.

Jim, thanks for the link to that talk from belzebuub. www.belzebuub.com has been great inspiration to me lately, specially the talks in Quebec that David mention. I read those a while ago but I will read them again with more attention.

David, if I look back I can think of a few moments when I really felt connection with my Divine Parents. There was one moment in which it really had big impact on my approach on one of the practices that are teached on this website. So I agree with you in that we have to look for this. "Remember, our Father knows what we need before we even ask for it." I supose this is true, and very difficult to understand also. Sometimes it happens to me that I ask for something and get something I wasn't expecting at all, and I can get into the mistake of thinking my asking was not answered. There is so much that I don't understand about the situations that surround me.

I had a conversation earlier today with someone, and it happen to end in a topic related to all this. We got a point that, when it comes to 'do or not to do', we won't find the answer anywhere but in doing that which we need to do. So now I think, perhaps, I hope, this 'courage' or 'inner strength to overcome fears, obstacles, etc.' will grow as I keep moving forward.

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Sat, 02/23/2008 - 12:37
Mauricio

Join Date: 2005-05-29
Forum Posts: 172

Hi Vadim,

you wrote your post before I submited mine. It seems that what I wrote at the end relates to what you say, so what is left to do when it comes to both 'fear' and 'laziness' when choosing in something necessary for our inner work, is to simply do it. thanks for pointing this out.

All the strenght to everyone

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Sat, 02/23/2008 - 19:29
Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2635

It's because I had a fear that someone would write the post just before me, so I wrote it really, really fast.
Just kidding.

Take care!

Much strength to all!

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Sun, 02/24/2008 - 07:34
David G

Join Date: 2003-09-08
Forum Posts: 868

Lol Vadim.

"Sometimes it happens to me that I ask for something and get something I wasn't expecting at all, and I can get into the mistake of thinking my asking was not answered."

I think the same thing happens to me, especially with me making mistakes and things getting harder after I ask to understand something, and often then I think that I'm not being answered. I think for me it's more though that the answer is not what I wanted to hear, and I need to be more open to what I'm shown or given.