Hi foxtse,

It is up to us to verify what we are taught and told.M.Samael never asked to be believed.He always insisted that through work we will verify his tellings.

What we need now are the basics in order to begin our work.We can easily verify that these basic techniques are actually working.Lots of people have verified this.

Even if we stop sinning the psychological defects will be inside us ready to sin in the first chance.Sure you have seen from yourself that it is not enough to decide not to sin because it continues to work inside us suppressed until it finds the chance to burst.

Doubts are very useful in finding the truth but truth doesn't always suit us.Either we accept it or not it is there, because it is the truth.

All the best

There's no dictator that sits there and says what will happen. If your future was predetermined, what kind of free will would you have? The future, as I see it, is the result of our past (things we have done in the past) + our present actions and there are many "versions" of it because it is dependant on the choices you are making now. Predicting the future probably involves looking at the past and the present and figuring out which "version" is most likely to occur based on what kinds of choices we had been making up to that point, but I have no experience in predicting the future, so can't say for sure.
Samael said that only few will take up the path and even fewer will finish it, but that doesn't mean there's a limit to the number of people who would reach liberation. Rather, it means that few will seek the path, few of those who seek it will seek find it, fewer will walk it, and even fewer will stick to it to the end.(liberation)
About Jesus saving humanity...I don't think that is meant litteraly. Doubt he would come here to pick up a few people with him ;)... it probably refers to the incarnation of the Christ, which you have to do the Work for it to happen. People who walk the path will escape the wheel of Samsara when they advance to a certain degree and in that way will be saved (is what I think it means).

Besides the fact that we should never blindly believe anyone, which means we should not believe what someone says is right, nor should we believe what someone says is wrong either. There are also a couple of other things good to keep in mind.

For instance even the best person could get a few small things wrong when speaking of countless facts, as well as missunderstand certain things learned. In addition to this it is very common for a person to missunderstand things read and told to them.

Reality is a very big place, ability to understand the written and spoken word is limited to ones own experiences. This means if there is lack in experience of something, missunderstandings are common.

The way Samael writes has it's uses, I would say it is great because it gathers so much info in little text. However this also makes assumptions and missunderstandings even greater. You might find that having read something by him, and then afterwards when experiencing it yourself you see that what he wrote is indeed very true, but that it is not the way you expected it to be (things rarely are). Sometimes people also look at certain things told to them or read as absolutes, as total truth without exceptions, in reality however there are often exceptions to most things... It would be impossible to list every single exception to everything mentioned, hence another reason some missunderstandings and assumptions sometimes occure.

So his books as well as any other source of information should be used as a guide map only, maps however can be very useful and even very much needed. His books contain a lot of great information, and can be very useful if used properly, but beliefs should not be with you when reading them.

What's most important is that we recognize our own divinity and not worry about anyone elses, even if they are venerated as a prophet. This is gnosticism.

I agree about not believing anyone, even Samael Aun Weor, any percent. We can learn from his experience but I'm not concerned with anyone saving me, ultimately it's up to me to rectify my being, not anyone else, not even Belzebuub can save me.

What I recognized is that Yeshua said the second coming will be in the hearts of men, so it's up to us.
What is written in the apocalypse of St. John regarding a messianic return are vague symbols widely mis-interpreted through minds confused by intellectualism.

It is long known that what people see in the astral is almost never interpreted correctly. Just like any symbols I recieve in dreams or otherwise will not be interpreted the same by you all or anyone else.

The best place to find answers for me is internally, I have long realized this and my pursuits in such occult science allow me to understand in the context of what Samael is talking about certain things.
I just want others to realize worrying about the external things, in my experience, makes you go in circles and you never find a definate truth.

If we continue internal work, we will actually get somewhere. I have benefited very much from such work, and the further you get in your own experience the less questions you need to ask other people because there is less doubt.

Hi Foxtse,

Q: Both Master Samael and you say from your own experience that mediums channel negative entities.

Now, all the students and teachers are here to learn and investigate about it and I do not know from direct experience, but I keep an open mind about it. One day as I carry on working on myself I will I hope be able to verify the truth of this.

Belzebuub: You should distinguish between Masters who give teachings and students who are learning whose knowledge is limited. Students are learning, if they believe then their minds will closed. It is like saying you should not believe in the driving instructor who is teaching you to drive. You have to learn to drive and it is not a question of believing or disbelieving your driving instructor.

"Coversations 2002/2003", www.belzebuub.com

Hope it helps,

Vadim

My humble opinion is that , if Jesus will incarnate in ourselves he doesn't mean in only a few. If most people go to hell, then by the same divine laws there most be a balance, there can't be more negative than positive can it?.

Well, as you said, Guide maps and not the exact locations.

From what I understand is the more you work upon yourself (egos) the more you allow the consciousness to manifest thus its qualities like love for example.What confuses me is that I have had different kinds of experiences with love and I can say in some I could feel something like divine to say so how do you know when you have the Christ love because from what I have seen there are different levels or let's say intensitivity of love?

Also can you say that the love that comes from the heart (which is from the consciousness) is a Christ love? Or is there  such possibility that you can still experience Christ love even if you have egos? 

>It is long known that what people see in the astral is
>almost never interpreted correctly. Just like any
>symbols I recieve in dreams or otherwise will not be >interpreted the same by you all or anyone else.

I think it is important to keep in mind that ability to interpit something properly (both in this world and in other worlds) is based on experience. Things are very different in astral indeed, and going by what is experiences there only from how things work here, there is a high chance of assumptions and missinterpitations.

With experience however a person learns how things work there, and missinterpitations decrease, and that which is truth is seen. There is a big difference between dream symbols and things seen in astral when conscious, even though there are exceptions.

There is a lot more to it of course, such as degree of consciousnes when out etc. But I guess what I am trying to say is that there are many beings living in the astral, spirits and others, who does not missinterpit what they see, because they know how the reality works, same applies to any person, experience removes missinterpitations.

As a sidenote can also be added that certain realities are more objective and fixed than others, so it can also depend a little on where you are located.

Hope this is not taken the wrong way or missunderstood now... :)

Hi Nadya,

What do you mean by Christ love?

From my experience as you get rid of your egos and also as you start to help other people it helps love to grow inside you and come up more regularly. Sometimes I have egos which make me feel 'love' towards people but that's a different feeling inside of me than when it's conscious and comes from the heart. More in my head than in my heart if that makes sense.

The egos seem to really dislike the from the heart type of love and they do everything they can to stop it.

I have no idea what it would be like to really have the Christ inside us and the love and other feelings he would bring, I imagine it would be pretty incredible though!

David