Belzebuub.com question

Hi Dusty,

I think what Master Belzebuub meant by that is that the esoteric path is very difficult and those who are willing to work hard with a continuous effort are few. Master Samael speaks of how people don't have a "Permanent Center of Consciousness" , so they just go from one thing to another and don't have the determination to do the work properly, since it takes a lot of effort to overcome the forces that are trying to stop you. A lot of willpower is needed.
That's my interpretation of the first sentence.

The rest, I think, means that if we don't use this life productively, which would mean working on ourselves to purify ourselves and connect with our inner Being, then we are just living like animals- being concerned with earthly things which are temporary and won't matter after we die. Working for spiritual progress is what we are here for and if we don't, we are just wasting the life that has been given to us.
These are just my interpretations of the quote that you gave.

I don't know about the snake thing though.

Hi Dusty
One of the most important things to keep in mind when you first start reading Samael's books are that his style is often very abrasive and that there may be many things you feel are too harsh or are untrue. What I've always tried to do, is simply to put those aside and not to worry about them until I can prove things for myself, one way or another.

I've read many accounts of the rattlesnake cancer cure working, where chemo and radiotherapy have failed, so if ever placed in the unfortunate circumstance of contracting cancer myself, I probably will give it a shot!

In terms of the vitamins, I think what he means is that all nutrients have an effect in other dimensions as well and our vital bodies (auras) extract food from the vital bodies of the food we eat, which is why when you talk about vitamins, you are talking about more than a purely physical effect.

With Master Belzebuub's website, I agree with Nadya, I reckon that what he means is that the spiritual path is hard and requires sacrifices, and it's important we do so, otherwise we get old, die, decay and go through the whole process again needlessly, when we could have escaped it!

It's okay to disagree with things, taking the course and taking some things onboard doesn't mean you have to agree with everything, so feel free to be skeptical and try and prove things for yourself. That is the best way! An open mind always :)
Ahona

Try telling a group of people, or to your family gathering, that you can get out of your body and travel to other side of the earth when you go to sleep.
Very likely this will interest some people, who have had some lucid dreams themselves. And what you say will hit as wrong to some of them, and they will see you as insane!

There are things that have already happened in the higher worlds and they are only inching towards conclusion on earth - and many people can see them happening in their dreams, but unable to change anything for themselves. Those who have had such experiences - the message of master will make more sense to them. Most will go on with the processes of the mundane life - from birth to physical death. And some will try half-heartedly and instead of doing the work – will get victimized by incidental things, grand ideas of mind and various theories that seem attractive, and go on trying things from here and there and ignoring the real work. And this can go on till life ends.

It only makes sense that along with giving clear techniques, and explaining the process of path that will change the situation of our internal world, master has also emphasized that what is in store for us, if we don’t give our best to the chance that we have been given and not treat the work as a hobby. A better understanding of what he says can be had after going through the topic of Life and Death explained in Gnostic wisdom Course.

Wow! Thank you guys so much for your interpretations, insights & input. This gave me much relief and comfort & a perspective to keep going down this path I am on. I was kind of worried there for a minute because my interpretations of those writings was not how you guys put it to me.

Each of you had something very important to contribute, so much so that I am copying and pasting this into a document to keep handy so that I can ground myself while I am learning.

Apakhana, you really made me realize how much I have to learn. You are right on when you said "The ego can use the intellect too easily to confuse the mind". I believe that's what has happened to me my entire life. What I have to learn is: what is ego, what is intellect & what is mind. I know what confused is...it's what I am. And, I am afraid that I will never understand or learn what I need. I have a math mind, not a philosophical mind. For me to understand easily, things have to be concrete & clear - 1+1 has to equal 2. I am so glad you guys are here to ask questions of. Thanks again, you don't know how much I appreciate you taking the time to try and articulate things to me.

Dusty

I am happy to help anyone wherever I can, what I learned is that experience gained with awareness allows understanding and comprehension.
Usually if I didn't understand something, it was because I didn't want to try or was making it more complicated than it needs to be.
That is good you have a math mind, I don't at all and can really use one here and there! Ha ha! I failed 5 math courses in college! Oh well, I eventually passed a statistics course. Yea!

Hey Dusty,

That confusion you're feeling is an ego. Have you decided to do any of the courses here? The Self Discovery course will help you answer the questions you had about what is ego, what is intellect & what is mind. The way you learn through the courses is by practicing exercises like observation so you can see what's really happening inside for yourself, rather than just having to believe what others say about it. And once we can see that the things like confusion aren't necessarily us, then we can work to get rid of them.

I wouldn't worry about having a math mind. Astral projection for instance is talked about as being a mathematical equation (sleep + concentration = astral projection). It wouldn't surprise me if there are large aspects of mathematics behind spiritual things. :)

In terms of the rattlesnake cure and Master Samael saying that spirituality is the best way to get well, my understanding of that is whatever illness we have is caused in some way by the internal states that we have or have had in the past. So for instance if someone thinks they're going to get sick or feel really negatively etc, chances are they will become sick. But also we can get sick because of abuse of our bodies and a whole lot of other things.

If we do spirituality right, then we start to break down the harmful internal states, so then we wouldn't get sick as much and we'd be able to find cures more quickly if we were sick.

All the best with things!

David

Regarding the rattlesnake cure for cancer I know a few people that have actually been cured with this medicine.

As for your doubts welcome to the world of insanity.Most of the people will never accept this stuff.
The only way to verify is to open your mind and sincerely investigate deeper and deeper.

Thanks David G for your insights. Yes, I am currently doing the Dreams course and having some success. Then I plan to do the Self Discovery course after that.

I have a lot of questions right now, but am letting them ride for the time being while I am doing the first course. I'm just trying to concentrate on what's at hand for now and be successful at it.

Good luck with everything,
Dusty

Hi Chris,
Thanks for the warm welcome to the world of insanity...I'm finding it quite comfortable at the moment. lol

The reason I questioned the cure for cancer is because of a couple of reasons:

1. I know for a fact that you can cure cancer yourself through major changes in diet, exercise & spiritual growth. All of this is outlined in Lorraine Day's "You Can't Improve on God" system. Although she is a devout 7th day adventist, it does not discredit what she says at all. She is vehmently against "eastern religion", but she has the absolute key to getting your body back in alignment with the way it should be. Cancer and all other disease cannot be cured for good by taking a magic pill of some kind. Samael even said in some of his works that the medicine machine is evil, but yet he was advocating the same "principle" behind it by suggesting a "pill" of his own creation.

2. Samael himself died from stomach cancer.

It's up to each individual to "cure" themselves and live in a way that keeps the physical body healthy, strong and disease free. I know Samael wanted to let us believe that he suffered cancer because of Karma. Let's say that's so, but then logically, you would have to conclude that disease is a result of Karma and if he couldn't do anything about his with the rattlesnake cure, then how could the rest of us?

So, if you think really deeply about him advocating rattlesnake meat pills to cure cancer, it does, ablsolutely abrogate other teachings and vice versa.

Now, all this being said, you have to know that I am a total beginner and I know just enough to be dangerous so to speak. lol However annoying it may be to some people, I realize that everything I am questioning and all of my reasoning may be totally off. But, if I don't raise questions and give my current opinions, then my egos will win with their inscessent little voices constantly placing doubt in my head. The reason they won't win is because I am letting all of these questions out and allowing other opinions and facts into my mind to consider. So, my mind is very open to investigate deeper and deeper, but I have to have feedback and teaching on what I am questioning. I can't just hear, "have faith". That just doesn't fly with me because what that really means is "just ignore blaring inconsistencies and believe it anyway".

Dusty

Hey Dusty,

Glad to hear you're having success with the Dreams course!

For ages I had lots of doubts and lots of questions about the teachings here (even though they felt to me like I was hearing the truth) because it took me a long time to have my first out of body experience, and it was awhile before I started verifying some of the things I was taught (and I still haven't verified them all by any means).

The information and practices through the course just get better though! I did the courses in the same order you are doing them when I started, and by the time I got a few weeks into the third course (Gnostic Wisdom) I had my first astral experience and saw how effective some of the other techniques are and I haven't really looked back since then.

I think it's good to ask questions and be sceptical up to a point, because hopefully that means you're going to find out things for yourself rather than just relying on what you're told. I used to hang back after class for ages every week and ask lots of questions of my teachers. Everyone here is really good and I don't think they'll mind at all if you ask lots of questions. We just have to make sure we don't get content with answers from other people and stop trying to also find the answers through experience ourselves.

There's a lot of things too which might seem strange when you're starting out, but if you just put them aside for awhile and focus on what you can work towards experiencing now like out of body experiences and what you can do in the astral etc. then the other answers can come and things can make more sense down the line.

All the best with it, I hope you can have lots of great experiences!

David