Entity or Ego?

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Thu, 01/10/2008 - 11:36
philip meyer

Join Date: 2006-12-11
Forum Posts: 15

Okay I'm not sure how to explain this.
I have had quite a few astral expriences the past 2 years.
I know how to project but I never seem to get anywhere.
First it was fear, then it was negative enties,
Now maybe still?

The past few projections(5-8) I'ff felt this thing stuck to my back.
To be more precise, when I project I become aware of this entity stuck to my back.
Well I don't know if it's a negative entity or my own ego or whatever but every time I project its there.

I'f had my fair share of negative enitys pulling and pushing me around but for some reason I don't think this is the same case. I can Definitely feel/sense that this is not something good.
So when I project I become aware of it , It looks/feels black or dark and so I starting using my astral hands to pull it away but its stuck to my back/neck/head. Its has a head , a few times its used its head and whent into my ear.
When this happened I get scared cause it feels like it might be going into my head(maybe sucking prana?) and I force myself awake.

This is really becoming a problem.
I'ff tried the bellin conjuration.

I don't have much exprience so any help/knowlege is appreciated

Thanx Allot

#1
Thu, 01/10/2008 - 16:40
gyorgi (not verified)

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Hi Philip,

Try the century plant. Try too take it by the head and pull it out asking divine mother for desintegration right in the astral. Try harder and with concrete intention the Bellilin conjuration next time. Hopefully someone can give you a more appropriated advice and you will come around to overthrow this thing.

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Thu, 01/10/2008 - 23:55
Patrik

Join Date: 2004-01-08
Forum Posts: 236

I am guessing it is much smaller than human sized? and it's entire size fits on your back?

It sounds to me like some form of parasite. There are parasites which are more "animal things" which does not seem intelligent. As well as entities which rightfully could be called negative entities which function as parasites, which has some form of intelligence.

In both cases you have to get rid of it, one way or another... There are of course many things which can be done. I cannot specifically recommend one specific thing, since often when it comes to countermeasures certain things work better for certain problems, and other solutions better for other problems and entities.

However, if you are able to, pulling it off you would be one of the better solutions (if you feel you are able and not fearful). In this case the best thing to do might be to travel to some other location. EIther through finding yourself some other place than your home after leaving body, or by being conscious some place in a dream (lucid dream) and then pull it off. And as soon as you have gotten rid of it, and thrown it away return to body and get up from bed. This way the thing will likely be in a completely other location, and will be much harder for it to re-attach.

If you find you are unable or do not want to get it off using force and hands. You could try walking through a wall intending for it to be "scraped off". Never tried this myself, but heard it can be effective...

Some other things to do, is various counter measures towards entities of a lower frequenzy/energetic nature. This of course implies conjurations, but there is a chance this will not work in this case... If that is so, then things like high energy oils and other ways to increase the energy on your body and specifically the place it is located, so it feels uncomfortable and leave.

One of the things I find most effective towards negative energies is White Sage incense. This is an incense populary used by native americans. If you get it, get it in a bundle form, which is dried up white sage leaves in a bundle, which you then let to create smoke. The smoke is purifying, raises energies in the area which makes it very uncomfortable for entities to be there. I have found this very effective for lower energies. Spread the smoke around the room, and put extra attention of letting the smoke surround you and your body. Put extra attention on smoking were the being is located on your body.

There are of course tons of countermeasures and things which can be used and done to get rid of lower energies and beings. But the basis for most of them, is the increase or raising of energy to a higher energy... Since lower energies have problems being around higher energies, they are either banished or forced to leave.

Do not accept the being sitting there, you can remove it, one way or another... Does also of course not hurt asking for help.

#3
Fri, 01/11/2008 - 03:05
philip meyer

Join Date: 2006-12-11
Forum Posts: 15

What you are saying sound's quite disturbing.

Well size wise,I can't really see it but can only pull/fight it's arms and as soon as I win the fight with the arms the head goes into my ear (always right ear) but it could definitely be smaller.

I really hope Iff this is a parasite that it hasn't done any harm because it's been on me for a few month's witch could also mean it's grown strong.

I'm not sure what the longterm effect could be on me?
I'm not feeling sick or anything

I will trie raising energy towords the region for a few days and trie to remove this thing .
I will also look for the incence and do some more surfing.

I don't usually get messages but do you think a oil message might be effective?

Thanx for the advice Partick!

#4
Fri, 01/11/2008 - 03:27
Patrik

Join Date: 2004-01-08
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I appologize if I phrased or explained this badly. There is defenetely no reason to get worried or fearful. There are some people who have had entities like this attached to them for years, simply because they are not aware of them. The "harm" they do is simply using your energy to feed. It is defenetely not fun, but I seriously doubt the harm is any more than a leech on your leg or a couple of mosquito bites. The amount of energy the entity takes is likely not enough for you to even notice it.

I have had beings using me for energy, I have also spoken to other people who have had the same... And never encountered anyone who got sick or noticed any harm. The worst is you might feel somewhat less energetic, but chances are you will not even notice that.

However, this does not mean you should accept having an entity on you in this manner... It might not be harmful, but it sure is annoying... and you CAN get rid of it, there is no doubt about that.

So stop worrying, no reason for it :)

As for the oils, I was not speaking of just any oils or a simple massage... Rather I was trying to point out that there are a lot of things which can be done and used in order to raise and increase energy... By referring to some oils, I was referring to oils made out of certain herbs that are high frequenzy/energy based... Just like the white sage increases the energy in the room and area, you can put some drops of high energy oils on the area, to increase the energy, and cause problems and annoyance for the entity, so it simply do not want to remain on you and leaves...

I would however many times over recommend white sage over previous suggestion... Since there are countless oils, and only few which might have high enough energy for it to be a sure-fire way to get rid of it... I have found White Sage to be very effective against most types of lower energies, even many spirits, it is very cleansing...

There are of course again many other things that can be done too... Some energy raising as you suggested might help... Century Plant elemental, some rituals perhaps, asking higher beings to send you cleansing and high energies (if they feel like it), etc, many things...

If you want more suggestions on cleansing, if you find these do not work, send me a message... But do not worry, most likely you just have to use some white sage, or some other things to get rid of it... It is an external entitiy, you can get rid of it.

And again, don't worry :)

#5
Fri, 01/11/2008 - 04:32
philip meyer

Join Date: 2006-12-11
Forum Posts: 15

Okay so I have no need to worry ,
Seems this white sage incence is the easiest option.

I have a few crystal. Crystals are high energy sources right?
My strongest is a rutilated quartz crystal.
Can't I trie and blast it away with my will combined with my crystal. And do I have to be in the astral or can I trie and pull it off in the waking state using my will/imagination? And does conjuration work in waking state?

Reason im asking is because I'm not sure if or when I will be able to get some white sage incence (not a online shopper but know of a new age shop closeby).

I use to have +-4 spontanious projection's a week (early mornings) about 4-7 months ago but these days I don't seem to have any.

The only time I do project is when I do some energy raising for 1-2 hours and it I'm a bit lazy.
From hat you've been saying I think this leech might be behind my lack of spontanious projections.

Again thanx allot

#6
Fri, 01/11/2008 - 04:46
Patrik

Join Date: 2004-01-08
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Well, you would have to try the crystals to see if it works, personally I have not had much success keeping entities away using crystals, but might work better for you...

As for the other suggestions, only thing you can do is try, it is hard to say exactly what would work since it kind of varies... Some entities for instance are easier to get rid of, some harder... There is no harm in trying, it might work great, unfortunately cannot comment too much on it the will/imagination thing. I have tried things like that, but cannot say for sure the effect it has had...

Reason I mentioned white sage is because it is proved and tested. Then of course there are many more things that will work.

You do not need to be in the astral to get rid of it... In fact, most suggestions I made is not astral based. Weither it is responsible for your lack of projections, I cannot comment too much about either... You would have to look into factors such as how much you practise now compared to months ago when you got out more. Spontanous projections might not seem related to practise, but in fact they often are. By ceasing with practises, you also decrease your chances of lucid dreams and spontanous projections, since your work on being aware in deeper states are decreasing.

Conjurations work when in physical, yes.

#7
Fri, 01/11/2008 - 04:55
philip meyer

Join Date: 2006-12-11
Forum Posts: 15

Okay it seems that about covers it.

And yeh maybe I'm just looking for a reason with the projection's

You have been very helpfull

#8
Fri, 01/11/2008 - 05:23
Thomas

Join Date: 2007-12-12
Forum Posts: 23

Hey Philip.

What I wanted to ask has nothing to do with the subjuct at hand so forgive me but I just wanted to know where youre from maybe I know you.

#9
Fri, 01/11/2008 - 06:03
philip meyer

Join Date: 2006-12-11
Forum Posts: 15

South Africa
Doubt it though