What I am mostly curious about is if there is anything else, perhaps more concrete that is the reason you are speaking of attacks and is under the oppinion there are negative entities present?

Reason I ask is because I do not really see anything in your description which indicates in a clear way that there was an entity present or responsible. This of course does not mean there wasn't either, but there are other possible explainations as well. Keep in mind though that only you know what you experienced, replies to your post is only based on your written word, and that is often limited...

To experience paralyzation is in itself not an indication of attack, as you might already know. Rather being paralyzed is a very common just prior to having fully split. In which case waiting a short while and trying to get up is often the best course of action, so to let the split fully occure (waiting too long though and you return to body).

To not see is also very common, especially when just having split and not yet left the bed. This sometimes clears up by waiting a little or opening the astral eyes.

The lack of voice is a "trick" played by some unfriendly spirits, but there are other possibilities too.

Perhaps you have experienced things in a way that indicates spirit presence, but just saying these things in themselves are not prof of attack. If what you have is a spirit messing around, then I suggest not bothering or thinking of how your voice appears. My impression is that this "voice blocking thing" simply makes the person unsure of the conjuration, so he either stops it in which case it has no effect, or doubts it etc, in which case effect is much less. So just continue with it naturally, it should still have an effect...

As for if you need to clear area before asking to be taken somewhere... Well that is up to you, no need for it really... If the spirit is in your home and messing around, then of course it is not unlikely that it is still there when you return. But for the sake of teaching I wouldn't say cleansing is a necessity.

Weither the unfriendly spirit can take you someplace, yes techniqally can but very unlikely to occure... He wouldn't have much to gain by simply flying you to some other place... If you are worried, then when you are being brought some place, pay notice if there is someone grabbing and holding you... He would have to carry you to the location, so you should feel him... Keep in mind though that it is common for nice spirits to do this as well (because you asked), so if you feel someone carrying you, it is more likely to be a friendly being than an unfriendly one.

Hope it helps...

Thanks Patrik,

I splitted and could feel my arms moving but was not able to move my body. I supposed it wasn't an attack..it was trying to stop me from exploring? I felt a force pushing me down so I couldn't get up. That was when I started to sing Bellilin and couldn't hear my voice. I just didn't know what else to do to get out of it. I didn't sing all the way through either. I thought they put a spell on me and that no matter what, I could not get rid of them.

thanks for all your advice. Will try to project again.

Lili

It can occure and is not that uncommon that certain body parts split before others. This mean that you could lay there being able to for instance move your astral arms, but your legs and head etc are still paralyzed and not yet fully split.

A feeling of being pushed down is also a common normal feeling during paralyzation.

In such cases there is a simply a need to wait a little longer until entire body is split, and then get up.

But again, I cannot for sure tell you if this is what occured, of it it was an attack... But there are no concrete indications it was an attack, based on your writing alone.

Last night I found myself waking with sleep paralysis again, like most nights, but this time there were two entities in the room. One of them I thought was my mother, but then I realised it wasn't because I couldn't move, and I was on my back with my arms folded across my chest, and these were not physical beings.
This paralysis lasted for a lot longer than I have had before, the entities only stood and watched me from a distance, but I felt very helpless, being unable to fight back or move when things are near you is terrifying.
I realised I could move some facial muscles so I sort of growled at them spontaniously.
I haven't used the conjurations etc yet, though it would be interesting to find out how to enter the astral world from the paralyzed state, because I always end up waking up after it.
Whether I struggle, or wait, once the paralysis wears off I am just awake, and when I am paralyzed I can not roll out of my body or anything like that.

If you do not know so already, it might be worth commenting on that by struggeling and trying to move you are actually lengthening the paralyzed state. So if you were actively trying to move and struggled (which would not be an usual thing to do) due to the entities being there, it can explain why it lasted longer than usual.

As for getting out when paralyzed... only thing I can really recommend are two things. Either you try and get up, and if paralyzed you relax calmly, not getting emotional or struggle, then try and get up again seconds later... and do this until you are physical or out of body.

If you have already tried this with no success... Only other thing to try, which would be the recommended thing anyways... Is when paralyzed, to lay there not getting emotional etc, and mentally focus on some technique... then from time to time try and get up until either out of body or physical.

I cannot say for sure, but the reason you have problems leaving body from being paralyzed could be one of two things. Either because you are getting emotional, which of course ends the paralyzation and makes you return fully to a physical state. Alternatively you being in a paralyzed state returning to physical, rather than being paralyzed and splitting... By remaining concentrated on a technique, there is a small (or larger depending on the case) chance you might be able to trigger the split again.

Just my five cents...

Thanks Patrik, makes a lot of sense

I have figured out what you mentioned about struggling causes the paralysis state to take longer, I usually relax and calmly wait for it to be over, but this time because of the entities I was in fact struggling.

I have tried what you said about trying to get up, and relaxing calmly without getting emotional or struggling, but this has not seemed to work for me.

I will try your idea of lying their and focusing on a technique, once I have been given some of the techniques during the course.

I wake up reasonably often with sleep paralysis which is why it would be nice to turn these experiences into a springboard for astral experiences.

Túrin

Hi Turin,

The last time this happened to me, I yelled NO! really loud and the being just disappeared. I know it sounds child like, but whenever I struggle, it seems they like that (whatever "they" are).

Then, the last time I was paralyzed, I just relaxed and then I just sat up out of my body. I didn't even have to do anything. But, I did relax with the thought on my mind that I would just come out of my body. I did NOT relax with the intention that the paralysis would go away. Instead, my intention was to use the paralysis to my advantage.

When I come out of my body this way, though, I tend to just play. Last time, I was jumping on my bed trying to poke my head through the ceiling. I was able to see some woodwork and stuff like that, but then I became grounded and had to walk around. I did some other silly stuff and even had an encounter with another "person". But, this was a very, very simple person that I was ordering around. lol Probably not an entity at all, but some projection of myself. But, in retrospect, I feel I was wasting my time on stupid stuff. This is where I think the mind training will come in handy. I already got the book for the course and have started on chapter 2, which is concentration exercises.

But, the truth is, I'm a very simple person and I try to arrange my life so that I can have fun all the time. I like to play with people and love them and just have a good time. I hate being serious and looking at life as a struggle and getting stressed out. So, I hope that this does not mean that I can't go into the astral because I don't have the right intent or for the wrong reasons. I just hope I can get my mind under control enough to be able to leave my room and meet all of the students at the end of the class. That's my sole intent for the moment.

With the way you are talking, I think you will be very successful in the class.

Hey Dusty,

I know what you mean about if you struggle it seems "they" like that, which is also a reason I try to stay calm and relax when it occurs now.

At least you have a good goal in mind, to meet the students at the end of the class, best of luck with that, maybe I will see you there.