Hello Apakhana,

This line of questioning is probably best to be asked in the related course area when they start up again (which hopefully will be next course round).

I don't know from experience but alchemy is apparently the foundation of the spiritual work. We all just have to work as hard as we can in whatever capacity we can to attract such a special thing to us.

I again don't know with the solar bodies as I don't consciously remember creating one but I imagine it would be similar to the physical. If we didn't have a physical body we wouldn't be able to manifest and experience the physical dimension. If we didn't have an astral body of any type we wouldn't be able to experience the astral and so on.

Hopefully we can have this discussion again in person somewhere else when we have eliminated 50 percent of those egos :-)

All the best.

Yes, hopefully!

I have taken the Gnostic Wisdom course before but I lost the PDFs. The new course should start soon?

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Hi Apakhana

If you did the gnostic wisdom course but don't have the PDF's anymore you could order the book to the gnostic wisdom course. It is called Secret Knowledge, Hidden Wisdom, at http://www.absolutepublishinggroup.com/

I have read that the courses start January 08.

Good luck
jonny

Hi Apakhana,

I recall reading that on our own we can only eliminate 25% of our egos. To eliminate more, we need Alchemy.

My understanding (not from experience) is that with the energies of Alchemy, we can ask for the elimination of an ego and it will be destroyed instantly - so it is a very powerful tool for eliminating the egos.

Also, the creation of solar bodies is more necessary so that we can incarnate the Divine within - that's what these bodies are for. I don’t think just having a solar body itself helps eliminate the egos.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,

Mike

Hi Apakhana,
I can’t give you the Gnostic answer, but I can tell you a dream that I once had.

Long, long time ago after the creation of earth, the heavenly beings where so impressed by its beauty that they wanted to experience what it was like to be amongst it – so they used their will to project into mankind because they could see no other animal that could take them, but they where giants and only half of the being could fit into this tiny human, so they split into half one half into man and the other into woman. They were so proud of this achievement but soon after they entered the human they had forgotten why they came and that they were now human being. Then man and woman felt like some part of them was missing, and they would search to find their missing mate not knowing why? Those how found their mate knew instantly; you are my soul mate and I need you to remember who I am. My dream was more like a movie playing in my mind but it does explain to me why we need Alchemy – I hope this was of helps like it was to me.
In love & light
Sasha

That is some dream! I really liked that.

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I do not personally have any experience of alchemy and the creation of the bodies. So this post should be taken for what it is, understanding strictly based on Samael, Rabolu and Beelzebubs writings and nothing more.

The way it is explained by the masters is the creation of the bodies in association with the initiations. Alchemy is used to transmute the energies and hence create the bodies. It can also be used for the death, to get rid of those extra pesky egos you find tricky to elliminate during course of the day.

There are a total of 7+1 initiations on the first stage of the path, which is called first mountain. For each initiation there is a test to make sure the egos has been elliminated. The time it takes to reach the initiation is based on the amount of work with alchemy (transmutation) and ellimination of egos. The body is created and you gain access to it after and if the initiation is passed and there is success.

Now the moment you reach 50% of elliminated egos you have finished the 1st mountain. By this time you have passed all 7 initiations, all bodies created and all higher aspects of the being related to 1st mountain incarnated within.

By the time 50% is reached you are free from the need to reincarnate again on earth, and you are a master. Now how could all this occure, reach freedom, mastery etc which is related to this number of freed percentage of consciousnes. If you had not yet created the bodies, and not incarnated the parts? You cannot be a master without incarnating Atman, and you need all bodies to do that... and someone who has reached 50% of conscousnes has incarnated Atman.

This is the theory behind it at least, and I hope you take it for what it is...

Should be noted though that if alchemy is needed to finish the entire first mountain (which might or might not be true)... You would still be able to make it quite far on your own. There is a need to work and put all efforts into elliminating the egos as soon as you have all the keys. By thinking you will wait until you have a partner, you might not only be hindering your course of finding that partner... But you would also be delaying any progress you could be making. There is a lot of work to be done prior to the stage when alchemy is required. If you do no work until partner is found, you still have to do the very same work later, only delayed and the progress you could be making then would have to wait...

I will not wait for anyone, I have already begun a long difficult path on my own.

It seems bizzare that you need anyone else (an opposing polarity) to help you incarnate atman, expecially when you can be put into the organism of a female or a male at different incarnations. The conciousness seems neither and both, not one or the other.

It is taught in Kabbalah that "correct action" creates these bodies, not alchemy - but that can be a vague definition for many things.
We have to take into account also that historically the Gnostics have their roots in the Judaic myticism, the Essenes.

Thanks for your reply!

What happens is that as we progress in dying to ourselves we get deeper and deeper.We start from the physical it is true. But to eliminate all the egos we have to proceed to other dimensions too.We cannot do this without creating the solar bodies.

We can see that the more intense the observation is the more egos it reveals.There is a point though that in order to search deeper we have to work in different worlds too where the egos exist.

25% is a really big percentage though and one gains a lot by freeing all this essence.So if someone can't practise alchemy no worries.He can have a strong advantage in a later life.

Mr. Pritchard/VM Belzebuub wrote that alchemy can ALSO be used to destroy the egos, as a supplementary excersize.

Samael Aun Weor was told by his Divine Mother that it was not at all possible unless we use alchemy. That was the ONLY way.

If someone can expand on this or point me to another reference, I would be thankful.

Thanks!