Hey Spiral,

That seems like a great experience! Keep going with it so you can uncover greater knowledge about the unknown ;)

Gerry

Thats awesome spiral! I too love to just zone out and think, I love thinking about deep things. I'll have to try that because I notice sometimes that if I zone out things change, I dont have a lucid dream but I notice that things around the area on the floor im looking at get blurry. But i'll have to try it, I have a few questions on the technique. Do you do it with your eyes open or closed? When you do it do you just think about something and let your mind wander or just look at a point on the wall or floor and let things just slip away. I think this could be a very good method for me to use to because everytime I meditate I just can't stay like that sitting there counting or thinking waiting. I always have to move after a while or open my eyes or something.

Thanks for the encouragement. I'll definately keep it going as well as keep everyone up dated on the progress.

---S

I do it with my eyes closed but not at the start. First, while lying down I just pick a spot and zone out. My eyes get heavy and I let them do their thing but staying in the feeling of the zone. Then my eyes will start moving by themselves in the socket. I just let this happen and slowly (that's the key I've found...slowly) zone out even more.

My eyes then drop done as if trying to look beheath the bedcovers. Everything goes from black with dark grey images moving around to movie screen grey. I zone out even more then I start feeling the vibrations like a motorcycle is driving by, then I hear voices (not always in this order). From there I get excited calm myself down and start over. Eventually after the vibrations and sounds I feel a lifting but not really light just a lift. Parts of my body go up (my hands either left or right always seems to come fully out first.)

Now while all this is happening I am in two places at once I am in my body able to feel my head only (the rest of the body I can't feel at all) and my other body (astral) that's where I stopped and documented everything. So that's all I have for now. Today I'll be doing it again and I see if I can go beyond my last checkpoint and get out and look around.

A thing to remeber is that your going to have to be still for a long time. This is the one thing I found annoying while reading books on the subject, no one ever said put at least (x) amount of time aside for this. So I'm saying this from my own experience. Put a minimum of hour aside to do this, again a minimum of an hour.

As far as letting the mind wander. It can be done that way because when I do it I usually go into an LD (Lucid Dream). I just have taken the time to do a LD projection. I'll work with one technique first then try another later after I've master this one.

Oh almost forgot a huge part of my technique...breathe.
Yes, I know it sounds simple but it's a must without this you might as well just go to sleep.

Before starting anything breathe in through your nose and out your mouth three times. Then just take deep relaxing breathes through your nose and your nose only. Going through the mouth I found dries it out and is painful to swallow for almost an hour.

So in recapping:

Lie Down
Eyes Open
3 Deep Breath Sequence
Naustral Deep Breath
Zone Out
Eyes Heavy and Close
Zone Out More
Sign Posts of Projection May Occur try to not pay attention to them just let them happen
Keep Going to Your Satisfaction

O.K. I hope this helps,

Cheers,
Spiral

Thanks for sharing Spiral.