Are All Demons Bad and All Angels Good?
Are All Demons Bad and All Angels Good?Subscribe |
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Baph
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Are all demons evil? and all angels good? or are there a few good demons and a few evil angels? If so are those Evil Angels called Demons and those good Demons called Angels? What determines the difference between the two powers? All ideas welcome as I have found no material on this subject at all apart from the obvious one of the fallen angel - Satan of course and Lilith - Adams first wife who in some literature is reported to have been a goddess untill she disobeyed God and was then banished to the darkness. I have read reports of demons being obedient to good so what then makes a Demon evil? |
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Join Date: 2003-10-27
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Good luck!
Join Date: 2004-05-28
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here he somewhat addresses this question. essentially the Christ is beyond good and evil. here is an excerpt from that chapter, but i do suggest giving the entire chapter a good read:
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"The Path of the Midst, the Octuple Path of the Boddhisattvas with compassionate hearts, leads us to the port of liberation.
"Unfortunately, rare are those who are capable of marching on the Path of the Midst, towards the Final Liberation. Those who do not fall on the tenebrous path of the Left, fall on the path of the Right.
"The tenebrous ones descend through the path of the Left within the abode of Pluto.
"The Saints ascend through the path of the Right, towards the marvellous Kingdom of the Light.
"The tenebrous ones and the saints rotate in the Wheel of Samsara.
"The tenebrous ones pass through the Buddhist annihilation within the heart of the world.
"They enter posterior into the elemental paradises of Nature, after having suffered a great deal.
"The journey through the subterranean world is millions of times more bitter than bile.
"The Saints return to the Valley of Samsara. They reincorporate themselves into a new human organism when the reward is finished.
"Neither the human beings with skin of goats, nor the human beings with skin of sheep achieve the Final Liberation.
"The authentic Final Liberation is only for the rebels, for those who march on the Path of the Midst.
"Difficult is the Octuple Path of the Boddhisattvas with compassionate hearts. The limit of good is evil. The limit of evil is good.
"The Octuple Path of the Boddhisattvas with compassionate hearts has nothing to do with good or evil.
"All which is good for those who march through the path of the Right is evil for those who descend through the tenebrous Left.
"All which is good for the tenebrous of the Averno is evil for the walkers who ascend through the path of the Right.
"Demons and Saints look with horror and terror at the revolutionary Adepts of the Path of the Midst."
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sorry for quoting so much, i started with a couple lines but seemed like only appropriate to include a good bit of the narrative.
does this apply? i thought it did.
i think an Angel though is not the same as a Saint as Samael is talking about.
who knows?...
it's already typed though, so i will send it anyway :)
peace
Join Date: 2004-03-02
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As I understand it, an angel is somebody who took the middle path and successfully walked it.
To answer the original question,
by definition, all demons are evil and all angels are good. Otherwise they would not be called so. But angels can fall and become a demon and demons can repent and once again become an angel.
Kind regards,
O.
Join Date: 2005-08-17
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I just wanted to thank you for highlighting some very important points. The choice of quotes was perfect.
Kind Regards,
Dave.
Join Date: 2004-03-11
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As I understand it demons don?t have the consciousness liberated, it?s awakened within the ego, so they are consciously evil. They divorce themselves from their being.
Divine beings are the opposite, they have liberated the essence and incarnate their being.
Though they both have an awakened consciousness.
Negative beings are not always how we picture them, they can be extremely intelligent and fool people easily.
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Join Date: 2006-08-18
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Wow, thanks for your replys you all make great sense of it all for me.
Jim, the sentence you quoted: "The Saints return to the Valley of Samsara. They reincorporate themselves into a new human organism when the reward is finished"
Please forgive me if I've missunderstood this but does that mean The Saints are the only ones re-incarnated? If so are those of us that have lived before all previous saints? Or have I got it all wrong?
Brent and Daniel you are so right about the misconception of a Demons appearance, they can be very deceptive. I read that if faced with a demon you command it to show it's true self then it has to reveal itself as a Demon if it is one. Is this correct? and if the demons are our own egos how would we recognise it as it truly is?
If that makes any sense!
Peace
Bridjitte
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During cycles of evolution, everybody has to come back into a new existence as long as they have not freed themselves out of Wheel of Samsara or finished an available amount of lives to do so.
To do so, it is necessary to work with 3 keys till the certain level.
You can learn more about it by taking Gnostic Wisdom course.
Then, while usually it is relatively rare to meet a demons and negative entities in Astral, if it happens, the best thing is to conjure them.
In some cases, if we are really negligent, we can be tricked by their appearance and don't recognise right away that we face a negative entity.
Somtimes they can appear peaceful, talk about love, giving tribute to God, play with words like destiny, purity, beleifs, peace, good intentions, trusting your heart, experiencing both sides, they can call you "my friend", "sir", mirror your behaviour for more connection etc.
If we like beautiful words, they can try to trick us with beautiful words, if we like a strong logic, they can apply logical concepts to prove their point, etc.
They try to work with our weaknesses, so as we build our strength with spiritual work, it is truly our great weapon against any negativity.
It is!!!
However, still, they can't hide who they really are, their energy is easy to sense.
Those who develop with spiritual work "eyes to see and ears to hear" can see with consciousness very easily their true nature.
In any case, it is the best to look into eyes of any being we meet in Astral, trust our intuition (in Astral it is very strong!)
And if you meet a being and are in doubt, still conjure it!
Good beings will not be offended by it.
Kind regards!
Join Date: 2004-05-28
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basically what Samael is saying is that anyone who has not walked the Path of the Revolutionary must return to the physical life again, so even a celibate Saint can attain spiritual states and i remember reading somewhere that these kinds of people do get rewarded in the afterlife in the higher dimensions. yet they still must return again and again, until all 3 keys are done so that not only the consciousness is freed, but also by the practice of Alchemy he/she builds the proper spirit-bodies to incarnate the different parts of the Being.
like Vadim said, the Gnostic Wisdom course really explains a lot more.
best wishes,
Jim
Join Date: 2004-03-11
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Vadim really explained this well. The experience most people have with negative beings is when they try to frighten them from their astral attempts. This can be easily overcome with simple techniques. When we seriously take up the spiritual work they can try very hard to stop us at times, and we can learn a lot more about them this way. Though even then, there is nothing to really be afraid of.
Demons are not our egos, they are real beings that have awakened negatively. Due to the way human psychology is comprised, and the fact that negative beings are awakened, they know and control a lot more than we may think. There are also many ways they can manipulate situations and people through their own egos- beliefs, fears, fantasies, pride etc. Even many teachings that are today considered ?spiritual? and sound beautiful, can actually mislead or divert people away from the truly spiritual.