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Wed, 01/31/2007 - 19:47
palo

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Does anyone know much about Rudolph Steiner the German philosopher? Is the schooling system that he developed that interests me. In all academic subjects art, craft and music skills are emphasised, the classrooms are painted in pastel colours, they all have a picture of the Madonna and child and children are encouraged to develop their natural aptitudes (meaning to develop what they feel inclined be good at) Children are let to be children without being contaminated with media and other things....while they still learn everything necessary to be competent in this world. I understand that he would probably be classified as a psudoesoterisist, he had some revolutionary ideas for his time. But since at school this day children are exposed to such a misleading world. I am just wondering if it would be in line with gnosis to have child attending an Steiner school. Comments om this highly appreciated, kind regards, Violap.

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Wed, 01/31/2007 - 20:07
Dave H

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Hello Violap,

This is an interesting post because i have often wondered the same thing. I don't know much about Rudolph Steiner apart from that he was a Theosophist from Hungary who started Bio-Dynamic Farming and a range of other things including the teaching methods you speak of. Apparently he was also a student of Friederich Nietsche.

Just because the teachings of the Theosophist's seem to have become Pseudo-Esoteric, this doesn't mean that the Members themselves weren't spiritually advanced. According to Samael, H.P. Blavatsky was a Master of the White Lodge and she was the founder of Theosophy from what i've heard. Also, Samael speaks very highly of Rudolph Steiner on several occasions.

In answer to your question regarding sending your children to these schools, well i really don't know. I don't have any authority to tell you what is correct and what is in line with gnosis. The choice is yours.

Sorry i can't be of more help.

Kind Regards,

Dave.


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Wed, 01/31/2007 - 20:46
palo

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Thanks Dave for your post, Steiner was actually Austrian know that I re read my post. I haven't read any of his works, just browsed through some of what he has said in lectures. He had an interest and knowledge of other realms apart from the physical but doesn't say anything about astral ( although sounds as if he is referring to that) Nothing religious is tout to the children is just a different setting and routing, letting children absorb the subjects in a much more interesting way I guess. Violap.
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Thu, 02/01/2007 - 11:09
Danielp

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Hi Violap,

I have also heard that certain people within the Theosophical Society at that time were very enlightened, including Rudolph Steiner, though I don't know a great deal about this myself. I have read some of his work, though interesting it seemed to be very theoretical, not so much something straight forward and practical.
I know of people who have chosen to send their kids to his schools and speak very highly of it.
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Tue, 03/11/2008 - 08:03
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My best friend and her whole family were raised in Waldorf schools and they've told me about Steiner for years.. He took Blavatsky's teachings and rechristened them Antroposophy after joing the Rosicrucians and having a falling out with Anne Besant.

Steiner was very prolific and a master teacher in esoteric subjects. Steiner wrote a lot and on occasion he contradicted his own writing, that may be due to him changing his mind over the years.

There are Steiner publications all over the net - feel free to Google them and read about him.

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Tue, 03/11/2008 - 14:02
Julian Kingman

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According to SAW, Steiner was/is an ascended master. He frequently talks about the astral plane, often specifically in relation to his Waldorf schools. Waldorf is based on spiritual principles that he discovered and turned to the educational realm. For instance, he discovered that after the physical birth, an etheric birth takes place, followed by an astral birth, and that corresponding with these changes are changes in the way children think and what kind of things they should be learning. I went to a Waldorf school, and like any school it will have it's problems, but it certainly beats a public school. If you really want to get a good sense of th school, talk to the teachers and administrators, because there's a lot of variety within the Waldorf school system, although some things are standard. After you meet a couple people that went to Waldorf schools, you can sort of tell by just a general well-adjusted character... The emphasis on creativity I especially appreciate. There's a website dedicated to hosting free online copies of his books, if you're interested in readings.
-Julian

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Sat, 04/12/2008 - 23:59
wright.d (not verified)

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btw, Steiner was a member of the Mysteria Maxima division of the OTO at the same time Aleister Crowley was there. Steiner may also have been a Freemason.

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Sun, 04/13/2008 - 02:08
Matija

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I've heard and read something about Steiner, can't say I know much though.

I think his father was an Austrian officer, so his family had to move a lot. He was actually born in a part of the Austro-Hungarian empire that is now in modern-day Croatia. I know people who live there practice his ideas on food production a great deal - everything's made naturally, with no artifical additions that are so common nowadays.

It seems Steiner had a broad knowledge on many things, spirituality included. Certainly an interesting person.

Matija

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Sun, 04/13/2008 - 22:42
ptr1968

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If Steiner was a spiritual master, then it still depend on the schools today how much they might have corrupted from the original teachings.
When a master dies, then usual the teaching slowly disintergrates, as can be seen by most of religions.

I think about a choise (which school) like that, it is good to use common sense.

Peter

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Tue, 04/15/2008 - 06:29
wright.d (not verified)

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true.

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Tue, 04/15/2008 - 12:20
Ahona

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I suppose if it was my child, instead of looking at how esoteric Steiner was and how valid his teachings were, I would be looking at what sort of education the school will provide to my child, whether it will allow intellectual and emotional freedom and foster a love of learning, as well as equip my child for life in the real world.

I would want to observe a few lessons, speak to teachers, research their teaching methodology and speak to other parents if possible.