Siddhartha & Yashodhara
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Mon, 11/20/2006 - 16:08
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caminantegnostico
Join Date: 2006-10-17 Forum Posts: 52 |
Is it correct what Siddhartha did leaving suddenly and without notice his wife Yashodhara and children in order to be a Buddha?As a father and husband he had responsabilities. In today's world she would sue him for irresponsable.I was watching the movie Samsara (a very good one!) and it is a modern version, made in Tibet, of a similar problem and I would like to know comments about it. |
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Join Date: 2004-03-02
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I do not think it is literally true, no (although most bhoedist believe it is). One needs a wife to reach the bhoedhahood and so did Siddharta.
What is meant with he leaving his wife and children is that in order to walk this path, we must break free of all attachments of this world. He gave up his life as a rich prince, but he also knew that all the persons in the world were his brothers and sisters, equal to his wife and children. Therefore he had to symboliqually abandon them. (much in the same way that Jezus tells to the person that wants to follow him: "do not go back home, leave everything behind you and fillow me")
Kind regards,
Olivier
Join Date: 2004-05-28
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his wife and kids were pretty well off, don't you think?
i'm not saying it's not symbolic, but maybe it is literal here. who knows?...
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Join Date: 2006-10-17
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I guess these forums are for these kind of questions no?
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In any case, you know how you feel about family and responsibility, right? So what does it matter what this guy Siddhartha thought?
Join Date: 2006-10-17
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My point is, how you can develop your spirituality if you left your family in a way that look you don't care about them?
Join Date: 2004-03-02
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In my mind, caring more for one person than for another (be it family of relatives) ultimatelly leads (in some people) to nationalism and religious fantism that can lead to terrorism. If we see the whole world as our brothers, this does not happen.
Now, I must agree that this is not an easy thing to do, and if we do not love our relatives, how will we then love the rest of the world? We will obviously not. So we should begin with ourselves (not easy, believe me) then our relatives and then the world. I think this is what is meant in this story.
Regarding Siddharta, he was a bhoeddha, which means an enlightend master. The equal of Jezus (in the context of their respective times bhoedhha is even a more powefull title than Messias or Christ although here we understnd them in a similar fashion). So in gnosis, we care very much about what either of them had to say.
Also, in both their live stories, little has to be interpreted literally. The bulk of the gospels and the life story of Bhoeddha are symbolic and represent stages on the path to liberation. For much more on this subject, I can recommend the free courses given on this site: http://www.gnosticweb.com/index.php?PageID=157.
Kind and respective regards,
Olivier.
Kind regards,
Olivier.
Join Date: 2006-07-21
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It makes sense to know how the Masters have walked the path, well at least to me is important. The thing is if he left his wife how would he have practised alchemy - an essential key to become a Master by gnostics and others. That is the thing that I was also questioning - that he didn't practised alchemy but still became a Master? Well as far as I know Budhist don't practise alchemy. Or do they? All I know is that they do yoga/meditation.
I quite agree with Olivier though that it might be a symbology only. As we know we have to be carefull of taking information literaly.
regards
Monika
Join Date: 2004-03-02
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he meditated under a bodhi tree and defeated the waters seated on a serpent according to boedhism. Those are 3 sexual symbols.
Onlyu a few bhoedists practise alchemy. It is called tantra over there. Most live in abstinece because (as the bhoeda predicted himself) the real meaning of his teachings was lost 500 years after his dead (some 2000 years ago that is).
Kind regards,
Olivier.
Join Date: 2006-07-21
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Mmm...interesting... Would you know a good book or site to recommend where this is said - about the real meaning of his teachings that were lost 500 y after his death. Just so I can avoid going through thousands of sites on the internet - it is quite frustraiting sometimes when you are new on the path and try to understand and want to know everything. I just want to see the link of alchemy in Boedhism, in other religions and occult antient mystery teachings.
thank you,
Monika