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Hi,In Samael's 3 mountains book (chap.3) p.32 is"He was a strange spiritualist, a mystical lord with a bronzed figure, an athletic monk. Good Heavens! I saw him in a sinister mediumistic trance, possessed by Beelzebub, Prince of all Demons. I still remember those dark words with which the power of darkness closed the session: "Bel tengo mental la petra i que a ?l le andube sedra, vao genizar le des''. Then he signed: Beelzebub."Question 1.Can anyone please translate what Beelzebub had said? I guess it is Spanish? Question 2.If Beelzebub was a demon during Samael's last earthy existence how then Mark is Belzebuub? I mean if he was in Abyss at that time and he repentant to have a go for another human life wouldn't he go through the second death and mineral, vegetable, animal and only then human evolution that takes much longer then few years which is the time when Samael meat the medium and Marks birthday?Inverentual peaceedov |
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I have no idea what he was saying, it is probably a kind of a mantra for evil, which might not have a literal translation.
On Beelzebub: Beelzebub was a demon that repented with the help of Samael, apparently in his youth (of samael I mean). If a demon truly repends, he can be given a new body, provided he did not use all of his lives in this cycle.
This is off course not a likely event :-)
So Beezebub returned to earth and was given the name 'Mark'
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olivier.
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Just to answer your first question, it's definitely not Spanish. Some words are identical to Spanish words, but overall to a Spanish speaker the sentence makes no sense, many of the words don't exist in Spanish. It might be what Olivier said - something related to evil, like an 'idiom' or something that is used by the Black Lodge.
From how I've understood it, if a demon or someone going through the infradimensions genuinely repents, they will be helped out of it so that they can have a new human existence and truly change soon after, and will not have to go through the second death and evolution before getting another human body. I suppose it has to do with how amazing this really is - to have someone truly wish to change their ways and walk the path - that they are given the best chance possible at doing just that. I can obviously not say from experience just how the system works for repentant souls, but Belzebuub was given a chance straight away, thus laying the best possible foundation for his ascension.
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Hi Edov !
I understand in part what you feel, because I have sent someting similar when I have learned that it was the Master Belzebuub who was coordinated actualy the New Gnostic Mouvement (since Master Rabolu is desincarnated).
I will tell you what my teacher said about Belzebuub when I was in a Center in link with the Master Rabolu, 15 years ago...
Master Samael, in his work to desintegrate his egos had to go in the infradimensions, and there, he could see some of his egoic reactions and it was also a time for him to help special persons in theses dimensions.
In a long periode of time, he went in the infradimensions and meet Bezebuub who was a demon. He talked a lot with him, they walked and talked together a lot of times, and Belzebuub began to remember who he was before (he was a Seraphin of the Angelic Community).
When Samael seen that Belzebuub began to recover his consciousness, he asked to the White Lodge if he could bring Belzebuub with him, in his aura (his light feild) to go in the supradimensions and show him what his memory had forgotten.
This demand of Master Samael to the White Lodge has been accepted, so Samael and Belzebuub traveled together until a high plane of the supradimensions.
There, a group of Angels made a big circle around Belzebuub and gave him a lot of Love, Light and Compassion.
The heart of Belzebuub has been really touched by this and he realised a lot of things that he had forgottend in his way with the Black Lodge. So, he accepted to be instructed reguliarly by the Master Samael to recuparate his right to have a new chance to go in the third dimension and take, this time, the path to te Revolution of Consciousness.
Samael help him like he asked, and one day Belzebuub received the autorisation to have a new opportunity in the third dimension !
It's why he was a being so spiritual as a young boy, and why he had a big will to be able to incarnate his Master after only 7 years in the Gnostic Movement, with the help of Master Rabolu ! It's fantastic, only 7 years !
All this history show us that Divine Help is always given to a being who sincerly want to change. And that show us also that the Help is in all the dimensions: here, in the third dimension, also in the supradimensions (the levels of Heaven), and also in the infradimensions (the levels of Hell). Nothing is mechanical, it's a question of consciousness before everything else.
This beautifull story had made me have a lot of tears, when my teacher explained it to me... I could sent the compassion of Master Samael, the determination of Master Belzebuub, the mighty power of Love in the heart of spiritual people.
So, now, I know that it's Master Belzebuub who coordonate the International Gnostic Movement and it's a big Joy for me to see that. Because I know, I understand, that it's a fantastic being that is at the top of the Movement, it's a being who knows well the infradimensions and the supradimensions, the Black Lodge and the With Lodge.
He is perfectly placed to know what to do to direct the students out of the ways that trap poeple (like himself be traped in the past...).
You understand ?
Who would be better to help us than a being who knows the 2 ways: the Light one, and the Dark one, and more, he has a big compassion because he knows by experience the feeling, the joy, to be help, when you feel very bad (when you are in infradimensions), by a being of light, a bieng who act with Love in his Heart !
So, because of all that, I think it's a great benediction for us to have him with us, to have this International Coordinator for the Gnostic Movement, this wonderful being, this Master so experimented, the Master Belzebuub !
He is the demonstration alive that everybody can climb the Mountains... can follow the Spiritual Path... He proved by his experience that even when you are in a very very very difficult situation, you can go out, if you really want, and if you ask for Divine Help.
For me, Master Belzebbub is an extreme exemple similar to Yeschua (Jesus), in the sens that Yeschua teached us that even when you are persecuted ontil the death, you can Love people, you can forgive, and have a resurection. With this exemple, this extreme exemple of Yeschua, the exemple of Love in front of Hate, Violence, Torture... we can understand that we can also Love
and stay in light, in our essence, even when it's not easy, because we have seen that it's possible.
Yeshua (Jesus) or Master Belzebuub had demonstrated that we can change, we can Love, we can Live in our true nature of Spirit... even when it seems impossible !
Sincerly,
with all my Love for Yeschua,
for Master Samael,
Master Rabolu,
Master Belzebuub,
you Edov,
and each of you !
Julie