Alchemy and Tubal Ligation

Alchemy and Tubal Ligation

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Mon, 08/29/2005 - 00:23
Greg Holston

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Hello,Would a tubal ligation somehow prevent the transmutation of ojas during sexual alchemy? It doesn't seem possible that it would have anything to do with it since the energy comes from the muladhara to start with but it's better to be safe than sorry.Thanks,A.D.

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Mon, 08/29/2005 - 21:02
Ahona

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Hi Greg
As I understand it, that would block the flow of energy and would remove all the benefits of practicing alchemy for the person with the tied tubes.
The energies emanate from the sexual organs, ovaries for women, testicles for men.
Regards
Ahona
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Tue, 08/30/2005 - 00:57
maxidragon2001 (not verified)

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Hello,

what if somone had problems and needed surgery in an ovary to remove only one? does the ovary have sufficient energy for the practice of alchemy?

My mother had her ovary taken out years ago and i was just wondering

Maxwell Nader
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Tue, 08/30/2005 - 02:39
Ahona

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You can still practice alchemy with just one ovary, but the process will be slower.
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Tue, 08/30/2005 - 08:25
gangalian

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I am using my intellect on this one.
Someone who has no legs in the physical body has legs in the spiritual body, so why not spiritually have ovaries and tubes that are missing in the physical.
If the Kundalini is a spiritual energy then I can see no reason why its not risen using the spiritual ovaries and tubes.
If the kundalini is a physical snake that dwells within us then we may have problems if the track it follows has missing bits. :)
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Tue, 08/30/2005 - 12:47
Ahona

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The kundalini uses physical pathways to rise, and the sexual energies are channelised via the organs, the ovaries and the fallopian tubes.

We need to make a distinction between the sexual energies and the Kundalini.
The Kundalini is a spiritual force and power, and the sexual energies are very much a physical force, even if they are divine in nature, and are produced within the physical organism, requiring physical channels to move.
The judicious use of the sexual energies via alchemy helps us raise the Kundalini, which is a spiritual and divine energy.
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Wed, 08/31/2005 - 06:21
gangalian

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I'm sure those who have had a vasectomy etc, still have plenty of sexual energy
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Wed, 08/31/2005 - 13:42
Ahona

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The energy will be there, but the routes it uses to travel to the rest of the body so it can be transmuted will be blocked.
It is good that these procedures are all reversible.

There is more about this on the Journey to Enlightenment and will probably make more sense when taken in context with the information provided there, especially about alchemy and what it involves.
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Thu, 09/01/2005 - 09:38
gangalian

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Hi

I believe that if you re-read the Mystery of the golden blossom, then things may become clearer to you.
You may learn about the spiritual organs and pathways and that its through these ethereal tracts that the power is transmutted and the kundalini is risen.

The physical parts and the act of making love are just representations of what is happening spiritually.

As I see it anyway.

Do's it state in the journey to enlightenment course that those with missing parts cannot raise the Kundalini?.
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Fri, 09/02/2005 - 05:31
maxidragon2001 (not verified)

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Hello gangalian,

I believe what Ahona Is trying to say (please inform me if im wrong) is that if you have a vasectomy or tubal ligation its not that the energy does not exist it is that the enrgies cannot flow through to result in transmutation.. not only that , but if the energies can not flow then it cannot reach the ethereal medullary chords (i think). because through the seminal vapors the medullary chords are opened for they are usually sealed. but how are the seminal vapors going to get anywhere if there are no tubes for transportation.

this is all my assumption so dont take my word for it,

Maxwell Nader
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Fri, 09/02/2005 - 09:48
gangalian

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Hi Ahona and Maxwell

I see what you are saying, but in the psychological world where a lot of this work is performed, I think it all comes down to belief. Heres my last take on the subject, unless you come back with questions for me.

From what I understand from my readings and ponderings on the subject, is that there are many dimensions, each one a reflection of the other,like ripples on a pond.
In the physical ripple, its obvious that if the tract is broken the substance wont flow through.
In the psychological, we can think of and picture these etheric tracts entering or beggining at the ovaries or testes and rising up the spine but these are in a secret anatomy that cant be discovered or severed by the surgeons knife, and are created by and used by our imagary to direct the art of alchemy. Obviously if we believe this pathway to be corrupt because of physical damage then it will be corrupt, but if we believe these pathways to be untouched despite whats missing physically then they will be untouched, because this is the psychological dimension and its our beliefs that exist here.
If we go to the spiritual ripple we will find a chakra called the muladhara in the base of the spine, here the spiritual representations of the sex organs can be found. Its in this atomic centre that the female yoni and male lingham create the real sexual power to raise the Kundalini.
If in the physical we perform alchemy and in the psychological create the pathways by believing, then in the spiritual the Kundalini willl rise, not from the sex organs, but the spine.

Think of the opposit where black tantrists practice thier art and awaken the Kundartiguador, the reverse of the Kundalini. If any of these artists had thier ovaries removed or had a vasectomy, they would not be able to waken the Kundartiguador no matter how dark thier practices and would be free to do what they want without fear of the consequences