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	Thu, 09/06/2007 - 16:50
Geno Join Date: 2005-10-21 Forum Posts: 42	My friend says that when he astral projects, he can't get out of his room. He says that these black pillars wont let him out, and he says that there are red symbols or whatever on them. Everytime he tried to break through, he wakes up. He said one time he got out of the house, but the pillars were outside too. Can anyone help or atleast tell me anything about these pillars?
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Fri, 09/07/2007 - 01:24

Gabrielle

Join Date: 2004-09-05
Forum Posts: 1396

I'm not sure what the pillars are...there are a few possibilities. They could be symbols, manifestations of the subconscious, or perhaps obstacles put there by a negative being, for example.

One thing your friend could try is to project directly to a place, rather than into his room. You can do this by visualizing the place of interest as your physical body falls asleep. If you manage to project, you'll go directly to the place. For example, he could try to project to the Great Pyramids, which has a spiritual counterpart in the astral where one can go and receive teachings.

Fri, 09/07/2007 - 05:39

jonny5

Join Date: 2004-02-21
Forum Posts: 255

Hi Geno

When you are in the astral you can ask your divine parents (higher aspects of yourself) to help you and to take you to a place where you can learn something.

In case your friend is interested in the astral you could tell him about this site and the courses. There are more techniques in the courses that help with those astral experiences too.

jonny

#3	Mon, 09/10/2007 - 13:33
Geno Join Date: 2005-10-21 Forum Posts: 42	Sorry, he gave up allready. He says "maybe astral projection isn't for me" I would say that too if those pillars were allways there keeping me from going anywhere out of my house X_x.
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Mon, 09/10/2007 - 14:01

Vadim

Join Date: 2004-11-30
Forum Posts: 2909

Hi Geno,

It's interesting, I have never heard about any pillars like this or have seen them personally.

It can be a certain psychological limitation your friend has to overcome. There are many, many ways to do it.
Such an opportunity to learn and to become stronger!

Sat, 10/06/2007 - 14:43

David G

Join Date: 2003-09-08
Forum Posts: 918

Hi Geno,

Maybe you could mention the courses here to your friend anyway? If he's not interested you can leave it alone, but it's worth a chance.

If what he's encountering in the astral is some type of negative being, then the thing they probably want most of all is for him to stop astral projecting, so if he gives up completely then they've won.

As everyone before said, pretty much all the major obstacles you'll come across, and lots of minors ones too are dealt with on the OBEs and Dreams course. I'm sure with a bit more time and practice and the information and techniques on the courses your friend would be able to overcome the pillar things or understand why they are in all his experiences.

David