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there was woman entity who always appeared whenever i am having astral experience.
the first time she appeared to me was thru a nightmare when she posed as my grandmother.
I managed to drive her away by singing Bellilin, then whenever i awake in the astral there
its always dark and obscure and there is always this woman trying to distract me. Often
she looks like my grandmother. Partly because of her and mostly because of darkness
i could not get more out of my astral experiences and could not go further. This, in some way,
discouraged me.
1. Is she a real negative entity or just my shadow (ego)?
2. If help didnt come is it possible for a negative entity to kill the person (considering cases of
death from nightmares)?
3. I was not feeling well, could it be one thing that trigger that?
4. If i have no intention of AP-ing for a certain night and i dont do the circle of protection,
how else can i protect myself from next attack if it happens again? When the woman circled my
throat i felt powerless to think of anything (e.g. shield... )
Moon
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Join Date: 2004-02-21
Forum Posts: 221
Hello Moon
I don't know if this is an ego or a negative entity.
In case it is a negative entity it cannot harm you physically, they want to threaten you so that you discover not something important in the astral. Those beings can stir up egos, that could be a reason why you did not felt well. The cirlce protects you and gives you a feeling of security, i do one around my room in the evening so that i can try nightly practices without getting disturbed.
What you can also do is to try the Jupiter, as it is very quickly spoken. You can also ask your parents to bring you to a different place and where you might be able to learn something too.
jonny
Join Date: 2003-12-11
Forum Posts: 327
hello Moon,
When you say you cant sing Bellilin, cause loosing breath, try to sing it in the mind, also before the ap attempt.
Also you can do the ritual of the century plant, I think it is taught in the book Secret knowledge of VM Belzebuub.
Further, when you are aware/conscious in daytime, the dreams and ap are more clear.
Like Jonny said I also ask my DM straigt away to take me where I want.
Think of a destination before ap.
Good luck, Peter
Join Date: 2007-08-01
Forum Posts: 180
I have yet to have an astral experience, but from the things i've learned i can gaurantee she is a negative entity. It may be your spirit guide, maybe ask it some questions that only your spirit guide would know and not a negative.
2. No it isn't possible for a negative to kill anyone, they can give us a bad scare but they cannot whatsoever hurt us physically.
3. From the book i've been reading, projecting when sick, scared, anxious, or any other negative feelings it is not advised but if your strong enough to conquour these egos in the astral you can do it.
4. I can't answer your fourth question sorry =/ I've not learned enough to figure it out yet. The only advice I can give is chant a mantra, a positive mantra to help drive the negative away.
Join Date: 2007-03-27
Forum Posts: 162
thank you everyone, im still figuring out if this is my ego or a negative entity.
no john, i didnt aim to project because im sick, it just naturally happened with better result compared to previous ones but the woman entity was more viscious too.
thank you i will not forget to pray before sleeping, i have dedicated my century plant for another purpose i guess i will get another one for my own use.
im just concenr if entity could really kill ... thank \s for reassurance, i appreciuate.
Join Date: 2005-01-24
Forum Posts: 620
Hi, Moon! :)
I hope you will get better soon!
Prayers always work and they are very helpful.A dream that comes to mind as a nightmare is that when a person took me to one door and as we entered I could see it was a dark place.Then I don't remember if that person said that or what was heading towards me but I was told I will die now and what I could sense and see as a shadow I perceived it as the Devil.I was so scared and I said to myself I don't want to go to hell so I couldn't wait and see what was coming coz I remembered from the previous time I was there it will attack me again.I didn't have any idea how I will battle that and then something crossed my mind and I said to myself I can pray to save myself from what is going to happen with me.So I kneeled, I closed my eyes and I began to pray sincerely and from the heart putting all my focus at what I was doing and feeling the connection with God.So it worked and the fear was gone. :)
What's really important is the faith and the power in what you do!
Aside from the other advices you can try to pray for an insight/understanding about the woman that troubles you, you can pray for her leaving from your dreams and astral attempts, you can pray for god's love,light and protection before you go to bed or in your daily life.
Let us know how it goes! :)
I will add you in my praying list!
Much love, joy and strength to you!
Nadya
Join Date: 2007-03-27
Forum Posts: 162
thank you for the comforting words, Nadya :-)
today, fever completely left me. I am eager to go back to my practices over the weekend. Prior to my sickness i have been physically sensitive, when around many people i would feel nauseated or get headache ... now i see the importance of psychic defense/shielding ourselves both in physical and in astral.
about the woman, i am treating her (3) ways : as my shadow thats need to be faced and confronted- dark part of myself/ counterpart of my grandma's psyche whom i always feared when i was child/ least is the possibility of it being an entity.
thank you Peter, John, Johnny.
Moon
Join Date: 2006-10-07
Forum Posts: 142
Hi Moon,
While it’s great to see your name again, I’m sorry to hear of your troubles.
One of my Gnostic teachers told us a story of when he was attacked in the Astral in a very similar fashion to how you have described. He was being strangled by a negative entity who was holding his head underwater drowning him. Then he remembered that because he was in the Astral it couldn’t actually physically harm him, and that it didn’t matter that he was being held underwater either because you don’t need to breathe when in the Astral. When he realised this he lost his fear and didn’t feel like he was suffocating anymore. Then he started laughing at the entity and then sung Bellilin and it went away. I hope that experience gives you some comfort.
As previously posted, you can mentally sing Bellilin when you can’t sing it out loud under such circumstances. But the century plant ritual is probably your best defense, I have personally had an experience where I projected after doing the ritual and a negative entity was in the room however it couldn’t attack me and because I knew I was protected I had no fear of it at all. It’s a good idea to do this daily whether you intend to project or not.
Don’t worry, negative entities can’t kill you, they only scare you. But I have been attacked myself and I know how terrifying it is. One of your biggest enemies is actually fear.
All the strength to you, and I’m glad you are feeling better and eager to get back to practices again. My love to you and Al and Tos.
I’ll pray for you,
Amy.
Join Date: 2003-12-11
Forum Posts: 327
When you understand very good (remember this several times daytime) in the physical that negs can't hurt you, then this will also happen in the astral.
As Amy said they feed on your fear, so understand this and get rid of it.
Strength,
Peter
Join Date: 2007-07-24
Forum Posts: 415
James N. Chambers, Jr.
WOW!
Are you having it easier in your astral travels? Hm, I don't quite know what that was. Was there ever anyone you know of in your life who tried to control or dominate you? I'm wondering if it might possibly be a reflection of that. Not sure.
Join Date: 2007-03-27
Forum Posts: 162
thanks Amy, what a surprise, didnt know you write me :-)
just got your email, im smiling bigggg..... will reply back soon, meanwhile take care...
james, if there was one its my grandmother, she was a terrifying figure to me when i was a child, i used to fear her when i was a child and sometimes i still do even now. so my dream might be showing me that.
Amy, i didnt know we dont breath in astral, that truly helps. thanks again
moon
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